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10 Oct 2016 14:03 #260479 by Wescli Wardest
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Akkarin wrote: What if people want the option of putting something other than male/female?


I want to answer the box with... Often! :P

Or... Helicopter :woohoo:

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:woohoo: :silly: :laugh: :P

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10 Oct 2016 14:14 #260485 by Brick
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Manu wrote: I'd get a bit spooked if someone decided to be referred to as "we". We are many, we go by many names. * head turns around 360 degrees * :dry:


'My name is Legion, for we are many' ? :laugh:

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10 Oct 2016 14:15 #260486 by
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What if there was just an text box for "Preferred pronoun(s)"

There would be no need for debate of sex vs gender and ultimately I don't give a crap what you consider yourself or what you are as long as I call you what you want to be called. It's like calling someone by the nickname they prefer instead of the name on their birth certificate. They have something that they prefer to be called, let's call them that. That is the only info I really care about from the members here. What do you want me to refer to you as? If you fill out the box "him/he" great, "her/she" awesome, "them/they" sweet, and if you honestly want to be referred to as "ugly octopus head" I will do my best to honor that wish. Why should it really matter to me?

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10 Oct 2016 14:16 - 10 Oct 2016 14:58 #260488 by OB1Shinobi
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV1Gukj3dgc

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i think this was the original

People are complicated.
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10 Oct 2016 14:31 #260493 by rugadd
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Discussions on the character of the participants is not helpful in a public forum and should be relegated to private messaging. Honestly, these debates are hard enough to follow for us, the simple minded. Poo flinging(whether they deserve a face full of chips or not) is distasteful, unneeded filler.

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10 Oct 2016 14:36 - 10 Oct 2016 14:37 #260495 by OB1Shinobi
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rugadd wrote: Discussions on the character of the participants is not helpful in a public forum and should be relegated to private messaging. Honestly, these debates are hard enough to follow for us, the simple minded. Poo flinging(whether they deserve a face full of chips or not) is distasteful, unneeded filler.


i actually disagree with this - observers get the benefit of watching the emotions play out through the responses of the participants

in general, the relative privacy of PM's allows people to hide - youd be surprised how different some people are when the conversation isnt public

having feedback from each other means that we have to deal with the feedback of the angry or petty or silly or ignorant. but it also means we can learn the viewpoints of the thoughtful and mature (all of us are all of these at different moments)

i say lets put it all out there and let everyone learn from the exchanges

People are complicated.
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10 Oct 2016 14:43 #260500 by
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OB1Shinobi wrote:

rugadd wrote: Discussions on the character of the participants is not helpful in a public forum and should be relegated to private messaging. Honestly, these debates are hard enough to follow for us, the simple minded. Poo flinging(whether they deserve a face full of chips or not) is distasteful, unneeded filler.


i actually disagree with this - observers get the benefit of watching the emotions play out through the responses of the participants

in general, the relative privacy of PM's allows people to hide - youd be surprised how different some people are when the conversation isnt public

having feedback from each other means that we have to deal with the feedback of the angry or petty or silly or ignorant. but it also means we can learn the viewpoints of the thoughtful and mature (all of us are all of these at different moments)

i say lets put it all out there and let everyone learn from the exchanges


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10 Oct 2016 14:45 #260501 by steamboat28
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ren wrote: As I explained in the thread adding new options to the list is easy, but not replacing the field with a text box without screwing up years of profiles, which are known to be quirky. As there's a plethora of genders and only 3 possible answers for sex, it made perfect sense.

Some people want gender, some people don't. I never envisioned changing "gender:male/female" which only covers a small portion of human population to "sex: male/female/neither", which covers 100% of the human population for such a tiny nothing on a %&*&$$ profile page could trigger such bullying at totjo, which I now think has got to be the most bigoted place I have ever frequented.


You're missing the obvious solution of adding choices to the dropdown of "Gender", which you just proved you could easily do when you changed it to "Sex."

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10 Oct 2016 14:48 - 10 Oct 2016 14:51 #260503 by steamboat28
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Edan wrote: I'm disappointed my request for the topic to be taken elsewhere (this was just a thread about adding a gender option to the profile) has been ignored.


I'm sorry, Edan. That is my fault. I was attempting to explain to MartaLina why the "Gender" field, specifically, is important, and instead I canned that response for something less than what I was trying to say, and then allowed myself to be sucked into the larger debate that occurred here instead of on the thread I started for it. I apologize and I am sorry.
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rugadd wrote: Discussions on the character of the participants is not helpful in a public forum and should be relegated to private messaging. Honestly, these debates are hard enough to follow for us, the simple minded. Poo flinging(whether they deserve a face full of chips or not) is distasteful, unneeded filler.


i actually disagree with this - observers get the benefit of watching the emotions play out through the responses of the participants

in general, the relative privacy of PM's allows people to hide - youd be surprised how different some people are when the conversation isnt public


This is actually one of the reasons I chose the hide tag instead of taking it to PM. I had nothing to say that I wasn't ready to say in front of the entire actual membership of the Temple. Guests might get ther wrong idea, but people who call this their home should know who they're sharing it with, even if that someone is a hotheaded, emotionally-defensive loudmouth like myself.
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10 Oct 2016 14:52 #260504 by rugadd
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Very well. Let me expound. I personally have a hard time following discussions when they derail into character attacks(or really, anything that isn't directly related to the subject being debated). For my sake(and those with the same issue), if you are so inclined, please minimize such behavior.

I don't post as often as I used too because I have a hard time separating the wisdom from the noise and forming a worth while opinion. that may contribute.

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