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29 Dec 2017 20:58 - 29 Dec 2017 21:02 #310306 by JamesSand
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haha I thought it was limited to table top RPG stuff! has vancian magic shown up in stories? I like it in tabletop but I've not tried a different system either.


Any of the Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance books follow the D&D rules (more or less), so we get to spend all sorts of paragraphs listening to Raistlin sit around reading books and looking for bat guano...


Avatar: TLA "magic" is way cooler, but given that it is tied to a physical skill and physical endurance (and is essentially just an extreme dance-off), the metaphor of "being too fatigued to do anything is like being too fatigued to dance" is a bit harder to work with :P )
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29 Dec 2017 23:44 - 29 Dec 2017 23:45 #310321 by steamboat28
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Kit wrote: haha I thought it was limited to table top RPG y! has vancian magic shown up in stories? I like it in tabletop but I've not tried a different system either.


Vancian magic is named for Jack Vance, who wrote novels that Gygax took inspiration for magic systems from, supposedly.
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04 Jan 2018 22:11 #311068 by Kit
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JamesSand wrote:

haha I thought it was limited to table top RPG stuff! has vancian magic shown up in stories? I like it in tabletop but I've not tried a different system either.


Any of the Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance books follow the D&D rules (more or less), so we get to spend all sorts of paragraphs listening to Raistlin sit around reading books and looking for bat guano...


Avatar: TLA "magic" is way cooler, but given that it is tied to a physical skill and physical endurance (and is essentially just an extreme dance-off), the metaphor of "being too fatigued to do anything is like being too fatigued to dance" is a bit harder to work with :P )


Haha I liked the whole "Raistlin sits and reads" bit! I thought it added depth to the character! You know, I loved the Dragonlance books, then someone told me it was a D&D campaign...then I went back and read it and all I could think about was my players in the background going "*hehe* watch this!" and then I couldn't do it anymore hahaha

I love Avatar!

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04 Jan 2018 22:50 #311076 by Kit
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Introvert vs Extrovert

I know there's a lot of information out there about these labels for people but I like to boil it down to a pretty simple idea that's very important.

"How do you recharge?"

That's it. Do you recharge your batteries by relaxing at home by yourself? Or do you recharge by going out amongst the peoples? Now, there's a broad range of descriptors beyond that. I saw myself labeled somewhere as an "extroverted introvert" *snicker* because I do enjoy the company of people, especially very specific people, I enjoy being social. But I'd heard so much about how introverts were "supposed to be" socially awkward, avoid others at all costs, and that sort of thing, I felt I was stuck in the middle and didn't know what to do. At the time I needed a label, but the bit that's still important here is how I recharge

It's important to keep those batteries as topped off as we can. Gather as many spoons as you can. And by knowing how we recharge, we know what we need to keep us happy.

For example, as an introvert, I know that when I go on vacation with extended family (really anyone outside of my household), I know to add a few extra days off at the end so I can recoup instead of jumping right into work again. As much fun as I have, I still need my recharge time.

I...actually have no examples for extroverts now that I'm thinking about it...hahaha can anyone chime in?

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04 Jan 2018 22:57 #311080 by Arisaig
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I'm actually an Ambivert. I crave going out, and feel drained if I don't see people or go out in public, but it drains me quickly and eventually I hermit away.

Its weird. I can find myself exhausted because I'm not around people, and I tend to just go to bed. So instead I force myself to go socialise, go be in public, something, to power myself back up and not need a nap. But if I spend too much time in public or actively socialising I feel drained and eventually just crave curling up away from everyone. XD

I had lived thinking I was an introvert because of my habit to "hermit away", but then i met actual introverts and realised it was an ordeal for them to be in public, to go talk to a stranger even if they need to.

I can attribute this to my upbringing, being home-schooled for many years. I learned to socialise and all that, but I was always in control of whom, when, and how long I was socialising. Raise up a child in the way they should go and when he is old he will not turn from it and all that I guess.

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04 Jan 2018 22:58 #311081 by steamboat28
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If I have a day off where I don't connect with other people--go hiking in a group, play games, visit friends, etc.--I'm useless going back to work. Is that a good extrovert example?
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05 Jan 2018 15:25 #311146 by Kit
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Arisaig wrote: I'm actually an Ambivert. I crave going out, and feel drained if I don't see people or go out in public, but it drains me quickly and eventually I hermit away.

Its weird. I can find myself exhausted because I'm not around people, and I tend to just go to bed. So instead I force myself to go socialise, go be in public, something, to power myself back up and not need a nap. But if I spend too much time in public or actively socialising I feel drained and eventually just crave curling up away from everyone. XD

I had lived thinking I was an introvert because of my habit to "hermit away", but then i met actual introverts and realised it was an ordeal for them to be in public, to go talk to a stranger even if they need to.

I can attribute this to my upbringing, being home-schooled for many years. I learned to socialise and all that, but I was always in control of whom, when, and how long I was socialising. Raise up a child in the way they should go and when he is old he will not turn from it and all that I guess.


Hmm...damn I thought this was one of the few things that was still clear-cut for me hahahaha. stupid world not being in black and white!

For me, I do get to a point where I crave being social, and there are even a few people who do energize me when I chat with them. And my husband laughs at me all the time because I can hold an hour long conversation with someone I just met. But overall, long exposure to the 'outside' will drain me. It may have been fun and worth it, but I need my me time. Part of my frustration lately is my me time lately comes in very rare, sporadic, and short bursts and it's got me threadbear! But then I get to a point and go, 'wait, where'd all my friends go?! I miss being social!' lol. Now that I think about it, I'll go stir-crazy without any social...er...I need to revisit this lesson sometime XD

Shit, I'm not even black-and-white lol I'm still middle-ground too. Thanks Arisaig! I'll have to do some research and read up on Ambiverts.

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05 Jan 2018 15:29 #311147 by Kit
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steamboat28 wrote: If I have a day off where I don't connect with other people--go hiking in a group, play games, visit friends, etc.--I'm useless going back to work. Is that a good extrovert example?


Thank you :D

So useless like you're exhausted or crazy? I get exhausted when I'm out, and crazy when I go for too long without social. Oh and do you recharge differently depending on the kind of social? Like does internet fulfill your requirements or do you have to be with someone in person?

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05 Jan 2018 17:59 #311170 by Manami
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I like the "Ambivert" term, Arisaig - I may be in that category myself. I'm by nature introverted, much of it from a combination of life experiences and activity that made me very comfortable with spending time alone, and a highly empathic nature (now cranked up by the internal training) that can overload me if I'm not careful. But I'm comfortable stepping into the spotlight when necessary, and very much enjoy certain kinds of social event, and usually keep a small circle of very close friends that I spend as much time with as our nightmare schedules will allow. I do need - and crave - community on the spiritual level especially...it makes the tough road easier knowing that others out there have made the choice to embrace it and are engaged in similar work (which helps with the temptation of despair when there's just too much bad news constantly).

My recharge is primarily getting out into nature, especially camping in the deep wilderness areas (which I used to do alone, before I had an instructor's wrath over needless endangerment to fear, LOL). When that's not possible, travel is a close second - I like going to new places and being anonymous. My regular maintenance is simply being alone in my home space, playing music, working on art, or reading, and daily training is critically important. I have dealt with depression since around 6th grade, and currently manage everything through diet and training...but it has to be consistent. A crash and several days getting off program can lead to a tailspin, and sometimes a long recovery period. That's why I find this community so helpful, especially now that I'm not in regularly contact with instructors - simply posting my weekly training report has helped keep me on track.

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12 Jan 2018 15:53 #311924 by Kit
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Vusuki wrote: ...I'd like to read your answer and then afterwards see what you think of this article if you've the time- www.farnamstreetblog.com/2017/06/habits-vs-goals/ ...


ok so I finally sat down to do this this morning (so sorry!) I see what the author is trying to get at but I'd have to disagree that goals are the bad guy here. If you learn how to properly set goals, they're a great asset and can work hand-in-hand with habits

I was taught to set S.M.A.R.T. goals.

Specific (simple, sensible, significant).
Measurable (meaningful, motivating).
Achievable (agreed, attainable).
Relevant (reasonable, realistic and resourced, results-based).
Time bound (time-based, time limited, time/cost limited, timely, time-sensitive).

I agree with the author that goals are (usually) like one-time game achievements. You hit it and don't go back. But I feel like the motivation I get from a goal pushes me more than a habit. I can sit down and write every day, but if I don't have a goal, it becomes more of a chore since I'm doing it "just because". The goal gives me something to aim for. "I want to write a book on poetry" gives meaning to sitting down every day and working on that poetry. (that's a bad goal example btw lol. It's not SMART)

like I said before, most of my big goals are to set habits haha. The last two goals I set were actually to do that very thing. Yoga at least two times a week, and to clean at least 10 minutes every day (provided I wasn't hurting too bad or didn't have another chore like groceries to do). Those both were set in the intention of setting habits. I don't consider a habit a habit until I can do it without conscious thought/need to remember. Like locking the door when I come in. When it becomes harder to remember NOT to do it, it's a habit :D up until that point, it's a goal to set that habit hehe.

Now I haven't studied into this stuff so I may have my terminology wrong but this is my experience.

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