The moral of the Star Wars story

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7 years 2 months ago #270381 by
What is the moral of the story?
I feel that for over the last 10 - 5 years, movies don't seem to have a "moral" - a reason for being made, a purpose, a message. I feel like these movies are made simply to entertain us and distract us. We have lost art for a purpose and fully accept art for art's sake.

As much as I love art, I want it to be purposeful otherwise its just "bread and circuses" to keep the masses dosed with soma.

When I listen to and read all the reviews of Rogue one - not one person references the moral of the story. What was the purpose of this movie besides to make a billion dollars?

What is be-careful for what you wish for ?
you become what you destroy?
We are reflections of each other?
Everything comes at a coast?

What do you think is the moral or message of Rogue one?

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7 years 2 months ago #270382 by Manu
As a courtesy to others reading replies:

SPOILER ALERT!

The pessimist complains about the wind;
The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
- William Arthur Ward

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7 years 2 months ago #270383 by Manu
Ok, so here is my take on it.

Warning: Spoiler!

The pessimist complains about the wind;
The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
- William Arthur Ward

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7 years 2 months ago #270385 by
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Yes, there are spoilers. Heck we can't even talk about movies or things without warning people? Have we become so sensitive or needy?

How do you define hope? Is hope the message because it is said so many times through the movie?
What is the price of that hope?
What is hope?

What made it beautiful?

The quick cuts blended into slow pans that make you feel the reshoots being done by different cinematographers and editor?

The lack of their impactfull use of Saw?

That they took a page from Shakespeare and killed everyone?

Or that Darth Vader finally got his castle?

What is better living for a cause or dying for one and "hoping" that after your death someone actually cares enough to continue carrying the torch?

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7 years 2 months ago #270386 by steamboat28
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7 years 2 months ago #270389 by
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What makes it "good"?
Is it possible to critic or examine the movie beyond its entertainment value?

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7 years 2 months ago - 7 years 2 months ago #270390 by JamesSand
Sacrifice is a recurring theme, with a touch of...I'm not sure of the word just now. Fancy Acceptance? Faith in the Force type situation?

The engineer sacrifices himself* to save his family.

*His peaceful farming life away from an organisation he hates, as opposed to just taking a bullet.

Every else sacrifices themselves at some point for mates, "The Cause", or what-have-you. (Especially old mate Expendable Crewmember 461 who passed the floppy disk through the door at the end)

Everyone accepts they have a role to play, and when that role is done it is done, and the world will carry on.

No one is bigger than the world, but also no one lacking in value.

I'm just taking a stab at a moral for the story, since you asked. Mostly I left the cinema glad that they had to balls to kill *everyone*

Plucky heroes and romances against the odds give me the liquid sit-downs.
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7 years 2 months ago #270391 by
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baru wrote: What makes it "good"?
Is it possible to critic or examine the movie beyond its entertainment value?


To sacrifice yourself for the pursuit of a greater cause such as freedom is the ultimate gift to humanity.

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7 years 2 months ago #270400 by JamesSand

To sacrifice yourself for the pursuit of a greater cause such as freedom is the ultimate gift to humanity.


Which reminds me, I may have to watch it again - but I'm not sure that anyone actually emphasises that the Empire is a bad thing?

I understand they create jobs, homes, and have better healthcare distribution to outer systems than anyone else in the game?

Oh sure, Palpatine was a bit of a dick and may or may not have gained power by questionable means, but now that he *is* in power, and a sort of status quo has been established, is there anything to be gained by destabilising the new regime, other than the pent up rage of a few aging warhorses, such as Saw, who, in the end, after apparently losing most of his organs and limbs, accepted his oblivion.

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7 years 2 months ago #270401 by
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Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

baru wrote: What makes it "good"?
Is it possible to critic or examine the movie beyond its entertainment value?


To sacrifice yourself for the pursuit of a greater cause such as freedom is the ultimate gift to humanity.


Is that a noble goal - self sacrifice? Is that a world that we want to live in where we are expected to sacrifice ourselves?

What about all the Imperial troops that died protecting the deathstar - doing their duty?

There are sacrifices on both sides - all sides?

Darth Vader had a few sacrifices himself.

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