Jedi can be a Religion NY Times

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7 years 2 months ago #273514 by
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/23/movies/star-wars-jedi-temple.html?_r=0

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7 years 2 months ago #273517 by Zenchi
Daniel described the TOTJO as a "fundamentally Christian organization, not sure if he meant that as an insult or if that's what he honestly believes... :dry:

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7 years 2 months ago #273518 by Leah Starspectre

Zenchi wrote: Daniel described the TOTJO as a "fundamentally Christian organization, not sure if he meant that as an insult or if that's what he honestly believes... :dry:


I was struck by that section too, but I think not clear in the wording if he was talking about us, or his own Church...

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7 years 2 months ago #273523 by Manu

Zenchi wrote: Daniel described the TOTJO as a "fundamentally Christian organization, not sure if he meant that as an insult or if that's what he honestly believes... :dry:


Given that the TotJO Creed is obviously based on a Christian prayer, it's not that far a stretch. Most of the western world is Christian, so it's not without reason that lots of Christian teachings and values will find their way into Jediism. And that's not a bad thing.

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Leah Starspectre wrote:

Zenchi wrote: Daniel described the TOTJO as a "fundamentally Christian organization, not sure if he meant that as an insult or if that's what he honestly believes... :dry:


I was struck by that section too, but I think not clear in the wording if he was talking about us, or his own Church...


Yea.. plus news organizations are notorious for misquotong, or completely fabricating a quote all together. Ie: I went tl a.grand opening of a bar in Manhatten a few years back and the times was thier reporting and asked to use me.in the article. Took pictures and what not. They used my name and photo.. and put in quotes that were completely fabricated. I said nothong of the sort.... Take this article for whst its worth. Free publicity really. Thats it. They trying to also obviously capitalize on the title announcement yesterday for clicks...

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7 years 2 months ago #273529 by Zenchi

Magnus Staar wrote:

Zenchi wrote: Daniel described the TOTJO as a "fundamentally Christian organization, not sure if he meant that as an insult or if that's what he honestly believes... :dry:


Given that the TotJO Creed is obviously based on a Christian prayer, it's not that far a stretch. Most of the western world is Christian, so it's not without reason that lots of Christian teachings and values will find their way into Jediism. And that's not a bad thing.


That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it of course. Not everyone would agree as not everyone here is Christian...

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7 years 2 months ago #273534 by Manu

Zenchi wrote: That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it of course. Not everyone would agree as not everyone here is Christian...


Of course. :)

Neither am I.

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Leah Starspectre wrote:

Zenchi wrote: Daniel described the TOTJO as a "fundamentally Christian organization, not sure if he meant that as an insult or if that's what he honestly believes... :dry:


I was struck by that section too, but I think not clear in the wording if he was talking about us, or his own Church...


I found the wording fairly obvious. he was talking about the temple. And I also think it was derogatory given his and johns history. :laugh:

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7 years 2 months ago #273550 by J. K. Barger
Nice to have some positive press on it, even if the Charity Commission didn't vibe with us..

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7 years 2 months ago #273561 by Ben
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Great job guys! Wonderfully articulated responses, as ever... :)

Thank you for representing us so well!

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