True Jedis aren't Masters
It seems to me that we can also see this same dynamic in Jedi vs Sith mentalities or “servant vs master” as described here. I believe the key actually lies in the balance between these two falsely contrasted opposites. In fact they are not dual opposites in which we must choose one or the other, but two sides of the same coin. They can’t be separated and one half lived and the other half not lived. Instead they need to both be embraced and integrated with one another in our lives. Nietzsche called this a revaluation of morals. It is the rejection of either one of these concepts as a pure state. It is an acceptance of our every instinct and the pursuit of our every “lust” as a natural part or who we are. Every characteristic of our makeup is valid and worthy of pursuit not sinful or evil or something to be denied. In effect, not only should we strive to be both masters and servants, the paradigm is actually unavoidable within ourselves no matter how much we claim denial of one side. No light without the dark, no dark without the light.
Often they masters are hidden knowingly or not. They only show themselves (knowingly or not) to those who want to learn: "I won't speak until you aren't ready to listen". This is what I keep in mind when I look for someone to teach.
Jedi Knight of TOTJO, A.Div
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Master: Senior Knight RyuJin
Apprentice: Trose, BeBe
'Impossible' is a word that humans use far too often. -Seven of Nine
Actually, I think it's quite wise and authentic to accept accolades like rank; to say, without boast, "Yes, I did this work. I learned that thing. And at this Temple, we call that Knight." Humility is good. False humility just gets in the way.
Training Master: JLSpinner Training Brother: Nakis
I think that's the best way of putting it.
Sulabri wrote: I think we have a false equivalency here. Mastery is often associated with incremented ability/skill (*such as a Master Craftsman) where often times when it comes to faith or indeed in any teaching element that it should be considered a level of understanding/involvement within the principle teachings. While I lived in Japan my Akido master was not a Master because he attained a rank, but because he taught many students and became known as a Master of Students.
I like the martial art equivalency as the Jedi were always designed around it in concept before it became a real faith and I think we do a disservice to forget that is part of the attraction that brought all of this about. When attaining a 'black belt' in Akido and many other martial arts you are showing that you are no longer a typical student. Levels of achievement beyond the Black Belt exist but in the old martial arts usually your rank beyond that of Black Belt is more based upon years of study rather than Mastery(Craftsman). So to equate we would say that the Knight within TotJO would have achieved the 'bar'(black belt) to where their knowledge and understanding is respected within the community when tied with service. It is a little convoluted but in layman terms Black Belt/Knighthood means that you are no longer a learner of the basics and are generally given the automatic understanding by your community that you know how to handle yourself.
The best I could come up with was that "Master" is a title placed upon an individual by others. A person never stops learning, they can only teach in addition to their studies and training.
Yoda: "Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
Mr. Miyagi: "Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later, [makes squish gesture] get squish just like grape."
That's really all I have to say about this subject.
"Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man." -Zhuangzi
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