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05 Aug 2019 22:21 #340946 by Manu
I would suggest including a few Jordan Peterson interviews to drive home concepts of:

- Self-responsibility
- Dealing with offence
- Choosing words carefully
- Not overeacting

And also to prevent engaging in large scale world idealism as an escape from one's own life.

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05 Aug 2019 22:31 #340947 by Rex
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I have a couple bones to pick with JP, but I do dig his basic self-help virtue ethics if they can be divorced from the larger framework of his philosophy.

Self responsibility, dealing with offense, choosing words carefully, and not overreacting are definitely lessons everyone (including myself) can always learn from.

Do you have any particular videos (or written works/selections) you'd like to link in?

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05 Aug 2019 22:43 #340948 by Manu
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I'll look them up and post them.

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06 Aug 2019 14:03 #340962 by Brick
I think this would be a great addition to the IP

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07 Aug 2019 00:35 #340974 by Manu
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This one on sacrifice is good:


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07 Aug 2019 11:36 #340979 by Bru-He WiEph
I only heard this Peterson guy mentioned once before, and that was this morning. Now I'm looking him up, and reading what he has to say. While some of what he says is just plain common sense, I can't sit here reading the drivel he spews about women.

Why would we want to include the teachings of someone who is so anti-feminist? Are you trying to drive women away? Jediism is about equality among humans, last time I checked.

Speaking as a woman and a feminist, if this guy's teachings became part of the IP, I would ditch it. If individuals want to follow him, that's their choice. But such an extreme view doesn't belong in the IP.

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07 Aug 2019 13:45 #340980 by Manu
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Bru-He WiEph wrote: I can't sit here reading the drivel he spews about women.

Why would we want to include the teachings of someone who is so anti-feminist? Are you trying to drive women away? Jediism is about equality among humans, last time I checked.

Speaking as a woman and a feminist, if this guy's teachings became part of the IP, I would ditch it. If individuals want to follow him, that's their choice. But such an extreme view doesn't belong in the IP.


I agree that Jediism is about equality of the individual regardless of their gender. Could you quote any of the things he’s said that you regard as being anti-feminist?

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07 Aug 2019 15:00 #340981 by steamboat28

Manu wrote: I agree that Jediism is about equality of the individual regardless of their gender. Could you quote any of the things he’s said that you regard as being anti-feminist?


...is this supposed to be a serious question?
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07 Aug 2019 16:47 #340982 by Williamkaede
Peterson's body of work is generic, rehashed self-help garbage, flavoured to appeal to young men, with a tacked-on political angle that leads to tribalistic nonsense. He's disrespectful to the existence of social phenomena that we as Jedi need to be aware of, that villify the people that we as Jedi should be here to help. He deals in half-truths, conspiracies and outright lies, and I shudder to consider what he'd be like in a session with a client. A less than ideal individual to be put in the TOTJO Library.

It's a bad fit for the Jedi in general, but honestly not surprising to see it being discussed here. I think this would be a mistake and a waste of time.

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07 Aug 2019 17:15 #340984 by Manu
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steamboat28 wrote:

Manu wrote: I agree that Jediism is about equality of the individual regardless of their gender. Could you quote any of the things he’s said that you regard as being anti-feminist?


...is this supposed to be a serious question?


It is.

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