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    • Question (Last post by sNe1a)
    • Quote: What you choose to do is entirely up to you, and I would support you in any way I can ;) Thanks Tellahane :lol: I really appreciate your help Quote: As far as I know, you can do as much of a self-study program as you like, but it wouldn't be an apprenticeship. Thanks Leah :cheer: I guess you're right since I wont technically have a master :P Quote: i m probably not the right person for an "authorized" answer but in "journals" in the new menber area you can just make yourself a journal aand post in there your thoughts and progress. as you said, your rank wont change but it doesnt matter ;) i ll read what you write there :) also i got in my journal other stuff then just the initate programm. just take a look at all the other journals an get inspired ;) I think that anyone is authorized to answer lol. And thanks in the future for reading :cheer:
    • What Are You Listening To Right Now? (Last post by Codex)
    • Quote: yo codex what language is that music and what do they sing about? is the video related to the text? Thank you for your questions Heut! ;) I did have a chat with a Jedi not so long ago about the similarities between Dutch and Swedish language and liked to post this one because of it; the video is, most likely, part of the music clip thingy and I guess that the maker enjoyed the video clip. :) The music is Swedish and it talks about a troll who is trying to convince Sir Mannelig (Swedish: Herr Mannelig) to marry her. She offers him many great gifts but he refuses her, because she is not a Christian woman but a troll (a dysphemism for a Pagan woman). She is desperate about her failure, because winning Sir Mannelig would have "freed her of her torment" (presumably of a curse).. Enjoy :blush: -Link to wikkipedia: --> X Lyrics translation: Spoiler: Swedish Bittida en morgon innan solen upprann Innan foglarna började sjunga Bergatrollet friade till fager ungersven Hon hade en falskeliger tunga Herr Mannelig herr Mannelig trolofven i mig För det jag bjuder så gärna I kunnen väl svara endast ja eller nej Om I viljen eller ej: Eder vill jag gifva de gångare tolf Som gå uti rosendelunde Aldrig har det varit någon sadel uppå dem Ej heller betsel uti munnen Eder vill jag gifva de qvarnarna tolf Som stå mellan Tillö och Ternö Stenarna de äro af rödaste gull Och hjulen silfverbeslagna Eder vill jag gifva ett förgyllande svärd Som klingar utaf femton guldringar Och strida huru I strida vill Stridsplatsen skolen I väl vinna Eder vill jag gifva en skjorta så ny Den bästa I lysten att slita Inte är hon sömnad av nål eller trå Men virkat av silket det hvita Sådana gåfvor jag toge väl emot Om du vore en kristelig qvinna Men nu så är du det värsta bergatroll Af Neckens och djävulens stämma Bergatrollet ut på dörren sprang Hon rister och jämrar sig svåra Hade jag fått den fager ungersven Så hade jag mistat min plåga Herr Mannelig herr Mannelig trolofven i mig För det jag bjuder så gärna I kunnen väl svara endast ja eller nej Om I viljen eller ej: English Early one morning before the sun rose up Before the birds began to sing The mountain troll proposed to the handsome young man She had a false tongue Herr Mannelig, herr Mannelig, will you be betrothed to me? For that, I offer you gifts very gladly Surely you can answer but yes or no If you wish to or not To you I wish to give the twelve steeds That go in the grove of roses Never has there been any saddles upon them Nor bridles in their mouths To you I wish to give the twelve mills That stand between Tillö and Ternö The stones are made of the reddest gold And the wheels are silver-laden To you I wish to give a gilded sword With a blade of fifteen gold rings And battle how you will [well or badly] The battle you would surely win To you I wish to give a shirt so new The best you will want to wear It [literally: she] was not sewn by needle or thread But crocheted of white silk Such gifts I would surely accept If thou wert a Christian [or: pious] woman However, thou art the worst mountain troll The spawn of a Neck (water spirit) and the Devil The mountain troll ran out the door She shakes and wails hard Had I got the handsome young man I would have got rid of my plight Herr Mannelig, herr Mannelig, will you be betrothed to me? For that, I offer you gifts very gladly Surely you can answer but yes or no If you wish to or not
    • A Jedi Retreat/Temple (Last post by Trisskar)
    • Quote: Those sunflower's are gorgeous!!!! if u get a chance ide love to hear from you Well....Thank you!! I'll tell you their story in the link provided ^_^ Dont think i can post pictures in that area though so ill post the pics in my journal for you to see :)
    • Walking the Walk vs Talking the Talk (Last post by J. K. Barger)
    • Thank you Baru for hitting it on the head. :) When I speak of soteriology, I use it as a synonym for the Path: What is it that one (as a Jedi) is doing, and what for? We don't have to get to far out on what is "sectarian" or what is lineage-based, let's stick with "what is close at hand". If we DO accept that "...feeling the Force..." is some sort of soteriological injunction, it begs the question, "How?" If that was the most ecumenical statement that could be made by the Grandmaster of the Jedi Order, it must have some sort of weight right? (I don't want to define the Path or the Force for each Jedi- that is done by themselves and can be found in the Lore." So what then is "Feeling"? It must be close at hand- and it must be something that all beings can engage.. I feel that this line of thought may follow the "whether cultural universals exist or not", but I think there is something baseline and very catholic about "feeling the Force"; and it is in the realm of experience that we can find this perennial applicability. We feel things in many ways, and the Force can be defined many ways; often contrasted as Power, Knowledge, or Enlightenment, these three different experiences of the Force, (to me) indicate a layered nature of experience. Naturally, anyone or anything sentient "experiences"; but even though this experience is universal and layered/multifaceted, each layer is interpreted and defined according to one's experience. What I find most important is 1. that we experience anything at all (this is 'feeling') and 2. that we all have ways of doing this. I propose that feeling the force is the experience of the Force at different levels, with each one of us defining our experiences as we find them and with greater or lesser emphasis as well. The exact realms or modes of our experience, IMO, could be in lines of the Body, Mind, and Spirit/Soul, which align well with the experiences of Power, Knowledge and Enlightenment. Thus for a Jedi, a deeper assertion of what "feeling the Force" could be is "(singly) Experiencing the Force at it's various levels", and perhaps (this is a stretch) feeling the Will of the Force is directly apprehending the unity of those three notions as well as the ideas of the Force at their most primal root- for is not our Will shaped or determined by our triplex embodiment? Thoughts? Sorry if this is windy, or roundabout- sometimes I have an idea that gets lost between the brain and the fingers ;)
    • Show me yours and ill show u mine ? (Last post by Zenchi)
    • Spoiler: Quote: Quote: [attachment] How do you keep it so neat and tidy lol jk thanks for sharing friend. Good question, the vast majority of my library is on an sd card, I only keep ten or so books on my pdf app (ez pdf reader on google play) at a time, i am a little ocd so it helps keep my sanity in!
    • Money stories (Last post by carlos.martinez3)
    • Money is one of those persona,l way to close things we don't like to speak of cuz we mostly have eyes and can see mostly we are not all cut out to be in charge of it and it bothers us. Old ego you know. In life once we grow from the lost in the sauce adoleccent to the "adult" we need to be things seem strange. its getting past that that seems to be the most difficult. I could give you advice, fortune 500 advice for anything u like, that still wont help you in your every day life. In my time I have studied and learned and in doing so I offer this my man Manu, Money does one thing and one thing only, ever! Money amplifies The old farmers used to and still do say that "money makes a bad man worse or a good man better" Knowing and passing this friend, what is yours amplifying? Truly that's why we don't like money, truly in it our use we see the priorities and reasons we truly are. The idea is to amplify what you choose. Find a characteristic of yours you like and add money to it. Change your world one cent at a time lol my box is always open my man! Be well and keep seeking!!! You WILL find what your looking for, guaranteed! (I did)
    • Hypocrisy of the 'Gay Wedding Cake' Case Ruling (Last post by Leah Starspectre)
    • Quote: Quote: So, what we have here is a conflict of moral/ethical values set over against merely representational value ones. The inalienable rights of no one were breached, for the bakery did not say that the two men must not marry one another (though they perhaps would have liked to), no one's life nor liberty was compromised. if legislation makes it permissible to demand things of people that are contrary to their morals in exchange for money - and illegitimate for them to refuse -, then we have indeed exalted reciprocity over conviviality, and aspired from being merely a free-market, consumer society into an altogether mercenary one. Exactly this… It is one thing for the government to regulate free speech, as in saying that we can’t scream “FIRE” in a crowded theater because it is dangerous. It is another thing in entirety to declare what we “have ” to say. Our Charter of Rights and Freedoms has the great addition that speech is free *within reason*: Section 1 of the Charter: The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. Sure it makes things less black and white, but it leaves us to question and examine situations as they happen.
    • Professor J Peterson Against Political Correctness... (Last post by Adder)
    • The change in the Act seems to require "evidence that the offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on" which to me seems to say its not the inadvertent misuse you have to worry about, but rather the intentional misuse enough to generate evidence of those motivations. But despite that, I mean, its never been wrong to say they're, their, or your etc - as its just non-specific in regards to sex or gender. It's only been wrong to say the wrong sex or gender specific pronoun.... not to use the generic one. I'd be surprised if all of a sudden it was wrong to use the generic and suddenly it was required to avoid the generic one as well!! Having too many students and trying to teach complicated subjects together would seem to be a good actual reason to repeatedly get some individual students preference wrong. If everyone can basically come up with their own pronoun then I guess it comes down to being worse then remembering someones name, which I'm hopeless at. At least names are sorta limited to common types most of the time. The rise of 'they' and 'their' I guess? Funnily enough is the freedom of gender going to spell the beginning of the end of gender itself!! Otherwise, the can of worms of a topic... knowing gender and sex to be different things, its clear that gender seems to be shifting away from sex as where once mainstream dynamics had them overlaying pretty much completely, it seemed simple to most people - but gender fluidity means there can be not only different examples, but that it can change!! So if gender disconnects entirely from sex, then yea I guess I'd have to consider that might not eventually need gender as a concept, anymore!!! Replace with 'human', they and their. I'd guess the only reason it existed was because it is integral in many relationship dynamics, such that many like to pair combinations of behavioral sets that seem compatible in some way. Such that in the mainstream model, places of privacy were for refuge from the other team, to allow that social interplay to exist at a higher level of interaction. If the concept of teams no longer exist, then the concept of refuge needs to change.. as its just becomes individuals. Gender fluidity seem to reference those mainstream models in some way mostly anyway seemingly, but by becoming individualized would seem to do away with it as a concept and replaced with just different types of expression. But there is still the attribute of sex which can serve where required to impart refuge for those who want it, there is undeniable evidence in regards to reproductive dynamics in regards to possessiveness of mates. So I'd probably need to take a biological approach, have a look at nature etc, and IMO looking at human behaviour and history, the partnering pressures on reproduction tend to create a requirement for the choice of the male sex to be kept apart from the female sex. Of course this cannot be enforced, but as a rule it provides a legal landscape to promote lawful conduct which tends to have the desired effect most of the time. So with all that considered, and I cannot help but this segways into the highly emotional bathroom debate. If we were to end up using a standard non-gender pronoun then it makes me think the 3 bathroom types approach might be best, the mixed, male, and female. Just my personal opinion of course, and I know its an vexed topic with good points all round.
    • Define "Real" (Last post by Adder)
    • I guess its causative footprint is a measure of how real something is, but I'd still personally consider subjective reality as distinct from objective reality just for practical reasons - even though one is the vessel for knowing and acting in the other. Using that, I'd probably define delusion as a measure of belief in contradiction between them, and perhaps insanity the measure of belief in a contradiction within one (or the other).... in terms of causality. :blink: Of course in dreams the whole concept of causality tends to go out the window half the time, but I guess that might be the point if its a maintenance type function to exercise parts of the brain which don't get much work in waking activity.
    • TOTJO Clergy Structure (Last post by Codex)
    • * 'Snowy Aftermath', removed from the 'Clergy Structure file'; * 'Codex', total document acces from 'Edan', received. ~

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