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    • Define "Real" (Last post by Adder)
    • I guess its causative footprint is a measure of how real something is, but I'd still personally consider subjective reality as distinct from objective reality just for practical reasons - even though one is the vessel for knowing and acting in the other. Using that, I'd probably define delusion as a measure of belief in contradiction between them, and perhaps insanity the measure of belief in a contradiction within one (or the other).... in terms of causality. :blink: Of course in dreams the whole concept of causality tends to go out the window half the time, but I guess that might be the point if its a maintenance type function to exercise parts of the brain which don't get much work in waking activity.
    • Hypocrisy of the 'Gay Wedding Cake' Case Ruling (Last post by ren)
    • Why care so much about the government forcing a business to do anything? This isn't the real issue here. This is the legal system forcing someone to make a political statement they do not agree with. Individuals were stripped off some of their most fundamental rights here.
    • TOTJO Clergy Structure (Last post by Codex)
    • * 'Snowy Aftermath', removed from the 'Clergy Structure file'; * 'Codex', total document acces from 'Edan', received. ~
    • IP Team Announcements (Last post by Kit)
    • Marta and x57z12 have left the team. Thank you both for your dedicated service to the team! Current members are: Lead: Kit Gwinn avalonslight Elizabeth Lykeios r3dleader Atticus We have need for more volunteers!
    • Professor J Peterson Against Political Correctness... (Last post by OB1Shinobi)
    • heres a transcript of the video Spoiler: host: ... blah blah blah, dr peterson is with me now because this debate has been simmering around the U of T about political correctness and some people are saying "we dont need to be being referred to by that certain pronoun of "him" or "her" -- but, whats the solution?" peterson: well the solution at the moment is mandated use of whatever pronoun someone demands to be referred to by." host: can they suggest anything? peterson: as far as i can tell they can, and im not trying to be alarmist about this but whats happened since the legislation was introduced is that theres been an explosion in gender identity categories. for example in new york now there are thirty-one protected gender identity categories and, as far as i can tell, there is nothing in the legislation that stops there from being a requirement for people to use a different pronoun for every one of those categories host so as a professor when you get a class does do people have to have a sign [like a name tag] on them to indicate which one they are/what they prefer? peterson well the practicalities of this are obviously one of the impediments to -- or one of the reasons for the legislation being improperly formatted, in my opinion i believe that when people were first considering drafting this they thought maybe there would be two-point-one genders, something like that you know, so there'd be "he", "she" and some alternative term which we havent settled on host its sort of like years ago when we had miss, mrs, and then people said "well we want ms." except theres only one ms so its just three categories, what youre telling us now is that there could be forty, there could be more peterson well theres fifty -eight on facebook host so what is the administration at the university saying to you when you say "well this just is unworkable" ? peterson they sent me two letters, one of which was a warning and one of which was a more serious warning stating that the fact that i was even having this discussion was probably illegal under the ontario human rights code - WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I MADE THE VIDEO ABOUT, because i thought it probably WAS illegal so i do believe that under current ontario law, perhaps even the discussion that we're having right now is illegal. host well they arent running in here to arrest so us so we're fine for now peterson yes we are fine for now, but the university took that seriously enough to warn me but i also should say that on friday i went and talked to the dean - because they asked me to stop talking about it - i went and talked to the dean and i suggested that we deal with this like civilized human beings and have a public debate that the university would host on the issue, and they have agreed to do that. host so theyre gonna have a public debate and students and others can attend and people can say "well whats the solution"? peterson well i dont know if the public will be invited to attend but we are going to have it broadcast on youtube - livecast on youtube i think its going to be restricted to the university community but we are going to have a debate about it host so its not really just you then and the university, what is happening is that the university is saying "we have provincial law now which dictate certain actions on our behalf" peterson well i think that they ar every concerned about that yes - they actually thanked me, the dean of the faculty of arts and sciences david cameron actually thanked me for bringing this to the attention of the university community host yeah hes not a stupid man peterson no hes not, by, by no means host right so hes sensitive to this but theyre referencing provincial law, so when was the law changed? approximately peterson bill c-16 is the law at the federal level and it just passed second reading and this is law in five provinces already and is about to become national law and i also should point out that it makes discussion around pronoun use and around gender identity subject to the provisions of hate-speech - its not good host well it sounds like "fahrenheit 451" or something peterson yes, it does im posting this because not everyone can watch the videos and plenty who can just arent going to, but if its printed for you maybe that will make the difference to just read it and get an idea of the direction peterson made his original video because he interpreted the language of the bill to make it a crime of hate speech to even talk about gender identity and pronoun usage in a way that migh ofeend someone or "make them feel uncomfortable" and he explains that in detail in the first video iirc so his position is that 1) its stupid to make it a crime to have differing opinions, even on issues that are personally important and 2) its problematic for university professors (for example) to be restricted by "feelings" when talking about issues as fundamental to life as gender a person might not like what they hear but that doesnt mean it is wrong and in the business of (life) education, people need to be able to speak honestly about facts and issues even if some of that seems offensive to our feelings sometimes and most importan 3) he has some expertise on totalitarianism and it often begins with laws which restrict speech, but these laws dont simply restrict speech, they require you to speak using only government approved language, which is a very dangerous direction for society to take ----- he said from the begining of his veides on this topic that he did believe that what he was saying was against the law, and that bothered him a lot so basically he broke the law and posted it to the internet in order to call attention to the injustice of the law thats pretty Jedi imo
    • This is posted in the Clergy section in my Block p... (Last post by Manu)
    • Quote: To not swing. To do nothing. Quote: It's the trying not the achieving that's important. The trip not the destination Swinging is better than not swinging. But hitting the ball is the goal, right? Of course, sometimes you don't get a hit, and that shouldn't stop you from trying. But if we constantly swing and simply feel content that we got to try, won't we diminish the drive to actually get that eventual, precious hit?
    • What's Your Alignment? (Last post by OB1Shinobi)
    • Quote: real, and fundamental to human interaction Quote: No actually those things are not real, Just like evil is not real. These are also a paradigm we made up to classify a family of thoughts and actions, nothing more. i do want to talk about this, but not here...
    • A Jedi Retreat/Temple (Last post by Codex)
    • Quote: Joking ...they r seriouserious about their lawn darts hu? Hehe, no idea what weird games they play there Carlos! Maybe we should give it a try? ;) Chambord is just way, way, too big.. almost scary.. :blush: I really do like the old style and that is actually the only reason I like to show Chambord. These days people do not make nice stairs anymore, I enjoy those details so much that I miss is every time I enter a 'new build' place. It makes me sad that so many buildings are industrial made. :( And it is very special to see craftsmanship too, makes me happy. :cheer:
    • Is Hierarchy Truly the Way of the Force? (Last post by Kyrin Wyldstar)
    • Quote: Abrahamic traditions see all things as a hierarchical ist of beings, seeing God at the top, then humans, animals, and then the Earth. Many Indigenous traditions see all these things on a spectrum, making God, humans, animals and the Earth on the same level. I find that the Jedi Order follows the hierarchical list in terms of rank and wisdom, but should this be so? Does a rank truly represent one's wisdom? Even though the Force and humans have different abilities, I do not believe that one is better than the other, as is suggested by a hierarchical list. Ranks are not truly present in the universe, as all things have their strengths and weaknesses. Before I call for a Reform of some sort I would like to hear your thoughts. Of course there is hierarchy in nature but that has nothing to do with wisdom. We all must submit to authority in one form or another, that ultimate authority being The Force. We cannot escape certain destinies imposed on us by outside influences. In addition we are naturally hierarchical within our species. We submit ourselves to external authority in a hierarchical fashion because it gains us something - A job, training, education etc. Each day you must decide for yourself whether that submission remains worthwhile or not. And if it becomes something that is not, you always have the option to leave. As for calling for reform, what makes you think that it would be considered? This site is not a republic. Its leaders are not elected, they are appointed. In fact it is an empire where Jedi pursue power just as much as any other. However the power they pursue is the power of focus to gain knowledge and wisdom. And yes that can be corrupted as well. Its been said over and over that no one is better that any other on this site and yet I have seen Knights demean apprentices by calling them children or novices or young ones etc. As an apprentice with more life experience that probably 90% of this temple I find that insulting. However those sorts of comments are few and far between most of the time. So in the end you must weigh for yourself whether or not the benefit you will receive is worth the sacrifice you must make here to submit yourself. I for one continue to find it a worthy undertaking as I train under a Master that is well suited to my pursuits. He is highly intelligent and has followed a similar life path as mine so we relate very well and we have followed a natural path of learning together that challenges and engages me vs one of him just dictating what I must accomplish with no regard to where I have been. I find that highly valuable and so I continue on that path. And at some point I may decide that it no longer serves me and that is ok as well. But you will have to make those decisions for yourself. In the end you have to ask yourself "is it worth it or not"? "Do I take the risk to potentially find something great or do I walk away and always wonder what could have been"? For me to try and to fail is better than to have never tried at all.
    • Codex`s Art Gallery (Last post by Codex)
    • Image of the source: Look for inspiration sources, try the new ideas return an echo, between the mountains ask and see all that there is dry from the inside seeking for more creep towards shadow, dessert with warmth return that become one with it melt all away, and you see nothing is there, except the return an echo trough time ~ , 27-10-2016
    • Walking the Walk vs Talking the Talk (Last post by Zenchi)
    • Quote: Jediism should be real and practical. The days of Faith, belief and supernatural should be over. We should believe what is real. What exactly is real? Is a dream real? Can you look at the above statement again and see anything wrong? Belief is belief, anyway you slice it...

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