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    • Monthly Council Reports Transparency (Last post by MartaLina)
    • So we are all bitching now , Snowy i do agree with your message more now ,esp after Edan explained where the ache might be, there is a need from some for more info , others just could not care less , they have different priorities than to ponder over the fact that the apprenticeships are being stretched to 2 years . I might imagine that those things are discussed in great length for a long periods... like a lot of things , my personal opinion is that i am content with the way it is now , no need to get my panties in a twist. I could imagine that the council have discussions like this , i doubt however they would bitch about eachother leaving the Temple , they would try to come to a consensus.
    • What do you hope for? (Last post by JamesSand)
    • That my caesar sauce has the right amount of tang to it. Oh, err, to be serene and calm even if it doesn't? To be the master of my domain?
    • How to Find Out If Your Penis Is a Normal Size (Last post by JamesSand)
    • Quote: I wonder if there is some sort of correlation between what you posted regarding "don't look weak" and the affinity between men and the "jedi persona": cool, calm, collected, invulnerable. I'm just buying into the stereotype here, but it's worth it - That explains casting Hayden Christiansen as someone who "falls" from the Jedi ideal B) Anyway, that thought reminds me of the following (either by Gaiman or Pratchett, not sure which of the two actually "penned" it) Quote: Most books on witchcraft will tell you that witches work naked. This is because most books on witchcraft were written by men.
    • Why Not... (Last post by Manu)
    • There are many "flavors" of Christianity as far as I can tell. Anyone who wants to live his/her life similar to what we know about Jesus is A-OK in my book. :) But many Christians I know still uphold the idea that their religion is the only right one and everyone else is wrong, and I'd rather not get associated with that.
    • A Question about Love (Last post by x57z12)
    • Went through the exact process OB1Shinobi described, it’s not fun. We succeeded in mending this after I got rid of those intentions but there was a lot, LOT of pain on both sides before we got there. Quote: but on the surface of it, you should never get your hopes attached to a persons behavior being anything other than either what they specifically tell you it is going to be, or what you have seen them do yourself Good advice, and not only for romantic/intimate relationships.
    • Love vs Attachment (Last post by JamesSand)
    • Quote: being cynical is not the same as being wise Fake it 'til you make it They're also not mutually exclusive. I am cynical in many ways, Perhaps it is genetic, or perhaps it's something I developed from experience. As per the OP Quote: subscribe to the idea of minimizing attachment to free the self from unnecessary physical and emotional burdens. - That applies to me, but that's something I've come too after many emotional attachments (people and things) have in the long run been a burden. Your mileage may vary, and I don't think you can read a book, or "buy" someone else's wisdom on the subject. If someone asks for mine, I give it (and occasionally people find value or comfort in it), but I am not prepared to label it as the solution to life the universe and everything.
    • Have you killed a human ?? (Last post by MadHatter)
    • Ok so I have never killed someone. However I will tell you the story of coming close twice. Thankfully both times the presentation of the firearm along with the sound of a pump chambering a round or in the second case the safety coming off were enough to make the person/s run. The first time it was around 0700 and I was woken by my brother yelling that someone was in the house and that they had a knife. I fought with my locked gun case and then the locked ammo case because I was a responsible owner and locked all those up in different cases. Well let me tell you I have never known panic like that before. Then I grabbed three rounds for my shotgun and loaded them. Chambering a round I screamed for my brother to get down and keep in his room. That is when he yelled that the person was running. I never even got to see the man other then the flash of clothing and sneakers as they whipped out the door. Thankfully the police got him before he got to far. The second time was much worse. I ended up distracted on the bus and went one stop too far into an area near my house where you did not go after dark if you didnt live there. Well that block and a half was all it took. Trying to get home I suddenly hear snuff that white boy. I turn to see four people starting to run down the street and one of them had something metallic and long in his hand. I drew my pistol and snapped the safety off yelling to stay back. They thankfully turned around and ran. Now what did those experiences teach me/ feel like? 1. a locked up and unloaded gun is useless when you need it. 2. Even thinking about having to take a life made me sick to my stomach afterwards. I almost threw up, was shaky, and then very very mad. But in the moment there was a clam at my center that I have felt at no other time. So any other questions? I hope that those are the only experiences I have like that because I dont want to think about having to take a life for real. I came close enough to know that I would have if need be but I also know that it would be worse then any of the abuse I have suffered in my life time. Because even if you want to live taking a life takes something out of you, or at least that is what I feel it would have done to me.
    • Waging Peace (Last post by Adder)
    • With International Peace Day coming up on Sept 21, it could be a good time to consider 'how to make peace'!? She talks about 'negative peace' being a condition of peace, perhaps a type of effort, defined by the absence of conflict. So then 'positive peace' effort gets divided into 8 distinct work areas, the 'Pillars of Peace'; [image] Seems pretty normal to us in the West, but perhaps they are actually quite vital!! I guess the theory is the Pillars of Peace reduce the chance of conflict developing, and while negative peace is the main metric of peace, its probably not the most useful focus to create and maintain peace. Sure the ability to control (read; stop) conflict is vital for restoring the condition of peace when violence starts, but perhaps there is more to peacekeeping then the promise of a strong armed response. I"m sure no-one wants to live in a Police or nanny state, but I've always considered Jedi to be peacekeepers... at least in belief if not conduct. For more discussion, here is a conference playlist titled the Future of Peace from earlier this year; www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzyGLFG67...BsjC28h9t95SiFyX0hke economicsandpeace.org/ www.visionofhumanity.org/ www.peacecorps.gov/ internationaldayofpeace.org/
    • Potential : Dr. Jordan B. Peterson (Last post by Adder)
    • Quote: On to the consciousness thing. I for one do not know that he is referring to the hard problem of consciousness when he says that we - and I quote "can't account for it at all" (emphasis present in original tone). To me, this sounds a lot like he is saying that we have no account at all for consciousness and the article you link to says otherwise. Speaking of that article, I'm not positive that "Why is it conscious?" is a question "we can still meaningfully ask" "even after we have explained the functional, dynamical, and structural properties of the conscious mind". It is not self-evident to me that there is anything more to it. But regardless, by saying that we have no account at all for consciousness, I am left to believe that Dr. Peterson means that we basically know almost nothing substantive about this and because of his credentials I think he probably knows better and could, nay, should have worded it in a less obviously false way. At best one could argue that it was not intentional, not scripted, but then that's not my responsibility. I am left to respond to what he said, not what he meant. It's a psychology lecture, not a neuroscience lecture! He likes to go into depth but this format doesn't allow it... so he is stacking abbreviated concepts to keep it short. His topic seems to be an alternate way to understand reality (by looking at looking at it), and he makes the point we don't have universal knowledge, and that the very experience of consciousness, awareness, sentience itself falls within that domain of ignorance. I really cannot see that his point is to indicate the degree of maturation in neuroscience, and so I think its unrelated to the video to blame him for not doing so. Same thing with his use of materialism. I think he is just talking about perception, how it can limit us if we don't actively improve it. Personally, I tend to view it as a tensor field initially, and then ascribe structure by defining 3 types of gauges. That is how I like to perceive feelings, and on top of that as thought becomes more abstract I populate it with a more complex structure which ends up at a decision making matrix modelled around virtue ethics of self, deontology of society with a final pass of higher order effort to consequentialism. I think his point is having a relationship with perception, we can redefine our experience of it. He compares that to the normal approach of being indoctrinated into using scientific knowledge to unnecessarily limit out potential in that field of perception.
    • From time to time a poem (Last post by Edan)
    • You do not need me You do not need me Though I know you cling on And hope I might lead the way For you; and even though I walk behind, Over your shoulder you look to see If I am still in your shadow. You do not need me Though I know you call me Whenever it gets tougher For you; and alone silently pray That I might be the solution To take all that suffering away. You do not need me And I know you give me credit For all the times you made it Yourself; I didn’t actually do It for you, only helped you find The strength to bear it.
    • Rants far and wide (Last post by SecondVariation)
    • When you can feel a cold coming on, but like, super slowly. So right now I'm not sick enough to be like "Bleh, I'm sick, I'll stay home and rest", but at the same time I can feel that light haze and the stuffy nose and slight cough. If I'm going to be sick... make me sick for real so I can get through it! Gah.

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