Busy minds during meditation?

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06 Dec 2012 18:27 #82782 by Zenchi
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Cue Alan Watt's "gong"..lol, yeah...I "get it".

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06 Dec 2012 18:28 #82785 by Alluvius
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Wow...that's the first time something I've said has lead to Alan Watts...that's awesome!! :woohoo:

(...and unexpected...but still very cool. lol)

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06 Dec 2012 18:39 #82788 by Zenchi
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I was gazing at the bottom of an empty coffee mug when that "gong" went off inside my head, anyone following my journals will find that rather humerus, I just realized we need a smilie for "enlightenment", guess this will have to do...:huh:

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06 Dec 2012 18:44 #82790 by Alluvius
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So...what was the simile...the gong, drinking, or Watts himself?

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06 Dec 2012 18:49 - 06 Dec 2012 18:55 #82792 by Zenchi
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LOL....All of the following (simultaneously)
A Brainfart and. Enlightenment...at the same time!
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06 Dec 2012 19:08 #82799 by Alluvius
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You know...there are those who would say a "brain fart" is enlightenment...and if they mean it the way I think they do, I'm inclined to agree. :cheer:

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06 Dec 2012 19:11 #82800 by maynoth
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Zenchi wrote: I was gazing at the bottom of an empty coffee mug when that "gong" went off inside my head, anyone following my journals will find that rather humerus, I just realized we need a smilie for "enlightenment", guess this will have to do...:huh:


Speaking of enlightenment and coffee cups :)



The beat poem is awesome you should listen to it :)



"Why Not" - Jed McKenna

Spiritual enlightenment sits next to an empty milk carton
on an orange lunch tray in a grade school cafeteria.
It's lying in the grass in a ditch beside a rusting hubcab.
It's on the button holding closed the left cuff of a somewhat
important man's shirt.

Enlightenment can be found next to the elevator on the
fourth level of the airport parking garage.

You can ask your dog for it, but he may not give it to you.

Look for it next to the pen in the pocket
of the checkout girl's red vest,
but only on Wednesdays.

Enlightenment is in the trunk, behind the jack.
You can hear it in the squeak of a hinge at the local library.
It's in the breeze blowing unheard through an unseen tree.
It's in the space after the exhale and before the inhale.

You can find enlightenment in church,
in that scratch on the back of the pew in front of you.

You can find it in the desert,
just before the wind picks up again.

Enlightenment is nothing.
Delusion is the greatest wonder.

Enlightenment was in your coffee cup
before you poured in the coffee.
Now it's in your coffee cup.
Two point two billion years
before your coffee cup was created,
enlightenment was in your coffee cup.
An hour and fifteen minutes
after time swallows the universe,
enlightenment will be in your coffee cup.

You've always known where it is
because it's exactly where you left it.
How can you not return to a place you never left?
You are dreaming that you are unenlightened.
You are dreaming that you are awake.

The question is: Why?
The answer is: Why not?

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06 Dec 2012 19:17 #82803 by Zenchi
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THANK YOU!

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06 Dec 2012 19:37 #82806 by Alluvius
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That's fantastic! :laugh: I love that poem. :)

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07 Dec 2012 12:33 - 07 Dec 2012 12:36 #82927 by maynoth
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Paradox
By Jed McKenna

You will never achieve spiritual enlightenment
The you that you think of as you is not you,
The you that thinks of you as you is not you.
There is no you, so who wishes to become enlightened?

Who is not enlightened?
Who will become enlightened?
Who will BE enlightened?

Enlightenment is your destiny – more certain than
Sunrise.

You cannot fail to achieve enlightenment.
Were you told otherwise?
Irresistible forces compel you. The universe insists.
It is not within your power to fail.

There is no path to enlightenment:
It lies in all directions at all times.
On the journey to enlightenment, you create and
Destroy your own path with every step.

No one can follow another's path.
No one can step off the path.
No one can lead another.
No one can turn back.
No one can stop.

Enlightenment is closer than your skin,
More immediate than your next breath,
And forever beyond your reach.

It need not be sought because it cannot be found.
It cannot be found because it is not lost.
It cannot be lost because it is not other than that which seeks.

The paradox is that there is no paradox.
Is that not the damnedest thing?

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