I apologize for my personal issues causing some drama here. I had no intentions of that.
You are not the cause of anything untoward...
I also did not mean to make TOTJO seem like it wasn't my "real-life". I take this seriously as it is a very important thing in my life right now and I most definitely don't think of it as role-playing. I simply couldn't find the correct phrasing for what I would really like to say. As Alex said it is a feeling, and feelings lose meaning when you try and put words to them.
That is not how you have been coming across :) - at least to me :)
I've met over half a dozen people from TotJO... it can happen and one day it will for you as well! :)
I think TOTJO is trying to expand beyond jediism? like in the sense that jediism is the philosophy right? but who are the people behind it?? So my guess is, this "social media bs" is doing exactly that
If we don't use this then we get accused of just being 'arm-chair Jedi' - people just pretending to be Jedi and hiding behind a screen. This new site, more than ever before, shows that we are just people like every other person...
As for extremist Jedi... I know of some extremist Jedi and they typically don't do very well on our site so don't stay around or post much...
I wanted to tell a story from the Jewish Hasidic tradition. I might not get it all completely right, as I only heard the story once. If you are a Hasidic Jew, I promise I am doing my best to tell the story as accurately as I can remember.
A rabbi in Prague had a dream. He dreamt that there was a bridge in Istanbul and that under this bridge he would find buried treasure. He ignored his dream because he did not think that it meant anything. However, after having the same dream for many nights, he decided that he would travel to Istanbul to find whatever it was that was waiting for him. He packed a bag and began the long walk to Istanbul.
When he got to Istanbul he could not believe his eyes. The bridge from his dream was there! However, there were guards standing watch night and day over the bridge. He could not go anywhere near it. After trying to find a way to get near the bridge for three days, he finally decided to go talk to one of the guards. He explained why he was there and that he had come because he had a dream.
"My dear man," replied the soldier. "You should not have come this far. There is no treasure buried here. You cannot always go chasing after your dreams. Why, just the other day I had a dream that I should travel to Prague and find the house of a rabbi and that if I dug under his stove I would find buried treasure!"
"Thank you!" replied the rabbi, and he left Istanbul. He returned to his home in Prague, moved his stove, and began digging under it. He soon found the buried treasure that the soldier had dreamt about.
As the rabbi found, you should always follow your dreams because they may pay off, and you should look close to home for great treasure.
This concept is sort of like the concept of bliss. We should look for what makes us happy and do that which makes us happy. However, the search for bliss does not have to be a great one. Bliss can be found nearby and in everyday life.
My question for everyone is what is your bliss and where do you go to find it?
I would say that I agree with you to a point. I think that if you are going to believe the Bible is symbolic, then you must believe it is all symbolic. None of it is literal. Maybe the people really existed, but the stories they told served as lessons. However, if you believe the Bible is literal, then you must follow all of its teachings. I would not say that you should pick and choose which parts are convenient for you. I think that is the point we agree most on.
I have to say when Peter Griffin in Family Guy spoke of becoming a Muslim because he could shout "Admiral Ackbar" all day, I couldn't breathe for laughing at it.
I don't always find family guy funny, they take some things beyond satire, but I didn't think I was laughing at the Muslim faith, I was laughing at his incorrect interpretation of it.
I'd say that this falls into the same category, look at it from the point of view that if we seen someone "Ascend" today we would wonder what the hell is going on, when back then it was "must be god".
(which would lead me to presume that they were very 'ST' back in the biblical days).
Why is it offensive to say that he may have been abducted by aliens, hell perhaps Jesus could fly... we do after all think he was an early Jedi right... perhaps he figured out how to use the force.
I understand the original intention of the "offensive" comment, but surely you can't expect us to walk around like we have a stick up our backsides.. Jediism is fun, and alas this IS the humour section :)
I believe that I will be reincarnated many times over. I do not necessarily mean that everything that I am will come back in a single being. I mean that my life energy will be released at the moment of my death, and it will become part of the energy that surrounds us. I will become part of everything because my life energy will add to the energy of creation. Through this, I will be reincarnated in many forms because my energy will help birth new beings. I plan to make sure I am directly reincarnated as a tree in addition to the many other beings that I will be reincarnated as at the same time. My death will bring about new life. It is all part of a cycle. For life, there must be death.
Whyte Horse has it. That's basically what I was saying. But it's just a concept. I don't know if such a thing is valid.
On another note, I just started reading this book called Biocentrism and it's really interesting. It talks about how consciousness fits in with the existence of the universe. It's not a spiritually-centered book, just science.
I've used this book in advanced training. There's a wonderful abridgment of it here www.nbcnews.com/id/31393080/ns/technolog...fe-creates-universe/ .
Don't miss this treasure www.robertlanzabiocentrism.com/ .
the scientists say that the cold fusion device they tested is 10 times more powerful than gasoline — which is currently the best fuel readily available to mankind.
please. even diesel is more efficient than petrol.
Now can we really call mind2 a mind? It doesn't actually do any thinking, it's a mere model.
Which is how we should being mind1 as well, right?
Not thinking, not judging, just observing...
Does it really observe? If I make a robot, or more properly an android, and put a brain in it, but only a model of a brain, all the computer chips and motors being in the central cavity, does this brain observe?
If I put the wings of a bird on a elephant, can it fly?
Did you build the robot to observe? The 'roomba' robot observes, however elementary, its environment so as to be able to vacuum a room...
Or would you make one out of a chunk of clay that does not even have the promise of doing any thinking?
The model of me, inside my head, might move and speak, but only as I see myself doing. The brain or mind in that model doesn't actually do anything.
You may perceive your brain or mind translating all those signals, from outside of your mind, but when I perceive my mind working, my brain translating signals from my eyes, translating signals from my brain to my mouth, I do it from my thought processing center, inside the same mind.
Sure, someone else said 'levels', so run with that...:)
Your description of how you see your brain, are like looking into a glass box, holding a working model of the room you're in.
I have that same room, that same glass box, but all it is is a glass box.
If i want to see my thoughts I don't look into the box at my computer, I turn away from the box and look at my computer.
If I want to see my vision, I look at my tv, not into the glass box at the miniatures of the room.
Perhaps I am not being clear enough...:)
Imagine you are watching yourself on tv... You dont really know what the actor is going to do, but you watch it...
Its like that...
Now, look at it like a video game...
You control the guy a bit... You make him pickup a stick,however, you didnt make him crouch down, extend his hand, grasp the stick, and straighten back up...
All you did, via the controller, was say, 'grab the stick'...
Be the controller...
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