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Re: Pillars of the Jedi 01 Jul 2012 23:25 #65621

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MJ Hannigan wrote:
Pillars of the Jedi
The First Pillar is Knowledge
The Second Pillar is The Force
The Third Pillar is Self-Discipline
I just had a look at a few EU sources and I think you've got the order wrong, it is Force, Knowledge and then Self-Discipline.

I use the Temple of Jedi Orders Three Core Tenets to associate with the Three Pillars of the Jedi from Star Wars. They are Focus, Knowledge and Wisdom. It's what I call the third incarnation of awareness and I find that both of those sets of values are extremely representative of the Jedi realist path and basically saying the same thing;

Force - Focus
Knowledge - Knowledge
Self Discipline - Wisdom

We can try to feel the Force (whatever that might mean to each of us individually such as concepts like the will) by a particular type of Focus, we can feel if our body of Knowledge gives us security from ignorance (perhaps even as a measure of fear or confidence), and we can feel our capacity for Self-Discipline or our confidence in being able to apply Wisdom successfully (perhaps as a measure of anger or serenity).

I agree with most everything else you wrote. I think the physical body is not at its proper operating state in a sedentary lifestyle, and does require a much higher level of nutrition and daily exercise and this increases health and capabilities which allows a better connection to the Force.

Re: Pillars of the Jedi 02 Jul 2012 03:58 #65640

The order of things is funny. I do not recall why I listed it as I did, you can always cut and paste it.
May the force bless you with guidance, strength, love and light.

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Re: Pillars of the Jedi 02 Jul 2012 05:32 #65652

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Akkarin wrote:
MJ Hannigan wrote:
2. You are loyal only to your ideals. Well I must be a bit honest that is rather Sith would you not agree?

1. I believe in compassion
2. I believe in tolerance
3. I believe in helping people make the most of their lives
4. I believe in being happy and making others happy
5. I believe that we are best when we work together towards a common goal
6. I believe we should pursue our own goals and our own lives without being put down by what other people want
7. I believe that we should all be free to lives our lives as we wish (Do what makes you happy and harm none on the way)


Is that Sith enough for you?

Heh. I found this a funny rebuttal.

They remind me, in a way, of the ideals of Marcus Aurelius, my Stoic Teacher and Guide.

There is a flaw in this, though. But, only in semantics.

1. Compassion? Do you approach this with Comserenity? ;)
2. Tolerance of what? Of yourself? Of your ideals?
3. Who decides what "most" means?
4. I hope you're talking about being Truly Happy as in accordance with the Buddhist Principles. Otherwise, I would assume you mean the normal definition of happy... which is... unhappy.
5. I agree here completely... only I hope the common goal isn't taking over the world. You didn't specify. I mean, that would be compassionate to the people working with you, and it would be tolerant of the people who help you, it would be the MOST thing possible you could probably do, and I bet ruling EVERYTHING would make you happy.
6. See 5. Taking over the world fits in here.
7. Would you act compassionately if I were to kill everything in my path? Would you force your way to stop me? Would you kill me?


I don't know. There are just a lot of holes in those ideals. They aren't worded well enough to communicate what you truly mean. And, with a little trying, I can make your words seem like you are a tyrant. But, with the same "accepted" belief, you could be the Savior.

This is how the world's greatest Dictators are born. They take advantage of words. Ideals, if they are Good and Pure, cannot then be PUT into words at all. Because, words are insufficient.

My point: Do not ever be loyal to something you can put into words. It can be taken from you.
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