RiddleNox, your standards are not too high; they're either paradoxes or gobbledygook. It's well written too. It appears to be complex and specific when in reality it's meaningless. That's not easy to do. There's people running for public office that need this kind of talent. Folks in advertising agencies and lobbyists make a fortune with this ability. This is a real talent. I admire it. This is a compliment. I'm resisting the urge to proclaim you a master manipulator as, under the circumstances, that would be bitterly ironic. (And you say you can't do much with a keyboard.)

By your rules let's say someone is a master. If such an one believes they are a master that means they are not a master and they're delusional. So the only way to be a master is to be one yet not believe something that's true and that others recognize as true. Huzza wazza buzzs what? But that's no good because being a master is unattainable so we can't say someone's a master in the fist place.

Then you don't put faith in this and that but you don't believe in faith. If so why bother to not put faith in ... whatever? If you don't believe in faith you don't have faith in anything. That would have to include your own hypothesis about masters. It can only be accepted on faith; there is no way to scientifically test it.

The king is pregnant. How many yellows are in a mile? Good grammar, perfect spelling and either impossible or no meaning. (I'm remembering Alan Watts.)

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In the community of people who believe in God there are no (zero [0]) persons recognized as a Christian. I'm using your rules. Are you good with this?

Here's an example with two large well known populations. The Roman Catholic Church does not recognize Mormon's as Christians. The Mormons say they have the only True church. The Catholics say they have the only True church.

Therefore there are no Christians.

Interesting to say the least.

As I sat reading these posts the first thought that crossed my mind was the fact that too much time spent on debating what is and isn't the term Master.

These words are describing matters of respect. If someone attends a University and earns the degree of a Master's or Ph.D. are we going to debate whether one is or is not considered a, Masters or Doctor of lets say Nursing???

In the Jedi Studies, Master is a title given out of respect and earnest practioning. Just as a Teacher earns the respect of the title of Professor.

We have to respect each other to learn from each other or we never learn anything....

Amen Patty.

We don't mean masters of everything even in the context of our own Jedi masters. Some of us are extremely gifted in martial arts while others are thankful to just be able to kick off their shoes. One might not be able to ride a bicycle (since without at least three wheels there's nothing to keep it from falling down) but be a Zen Master or a master archer.

All real masters know they're perpetual students, with every destination a point of departure.

One day I hope that people will understand the term Master as it is used in the fiction.

For some reason many misunderstand the term master as they do Kung Fu. The see parts of what these words mean but never truly understand the terms.

I still have the deepest respect for my masters that helped me to get to where i am, and I make sure to pass on to my students the true value of the term and meaning of what a Master is.

I could post the real meaning of the term Master as used in the fiction however it would be a shame not to let people come across this defination on their own.

Br. John wrote:
I live in workable paradoxes, John. The fact that I've described "nothing" means that I am not good with putting into words what my thoughts are. haha. So, no, I'm not good at the keyboard.

But, you're right! You've got it! I'm glad. If somebody believes they are a Master, they are not. If they don't believe they can ever attain Master, then they cannot either. So, being a Master IS impossible. It doesn't exist.

Now, the faith thing is true. I never proclaimed to be right. I never said I was right, either. And, I don't put faith in my own thoughts.

Also... there are no Christians. haha. That's an illusion. (I'll get smacked for that, I'm sure.)

(NOTE: I am sorry for being so "out there" and unorthodox. But, living, workable paradoxes are not too bad. And, while they aren't necessary always, I'm not good at pinpointing exactly what I believe. The more I learn, the less I know. Another workable paradox. So, in my experience, it's not necessary to have Superlative titles. Master. God. Deity. etc. I put these all on the same unattainable and non-understandable pedestal. If it can be conceptualized, it doesn't exist as a possibility. Just like, if you can define God, then he ceases to be God. Therefore a God that exists within our realm doesn't exist. So, we water the term Master down to NOT be superlative... I guess that's ok. Just doesn't mean what it really means though.)

MJ Hannigan wrote:
Exactly. And to me, the term cannot be understood.

your lack of understanding does not mean that others dont. in the usage here, master is not a superlative but a title of respect. i think this has been explained to you by others more patient than i several times now.

Desolous wrote:
Having manners is a good thing no matter what your rank or station is here.

Desolous wrote:
"in the usage here". Again, I'm not referring to "here". I'm referring to everything. The whole world. The Universe at large.

MJ Hannigan wrote:
i dont suffer from a lack of manners, but of patience. seeing the same argument repeated several times always irks me.