Patience is of the essence

Moderators: Adder, Adhara

Patience is of the essence 09 Jul 2009 17:13 #24377

  • Jon
  • Jon's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Novice
  • ID: 1798
In today's fast-paced culture, can patience really still be something good? Modern times provides us with high speed Internet, the instant gratification of emails and the convenience of even shopping online. But these modern conveniences and the life styles have their price. The more we pack into our lives, the more we seem to be loosing patience in the process. Time has become so compact that we can feel every single second which ticks by. We`ve come to a point where at fitness centres you can surf on the net and pedal at the same time etc. Where technology was initialy ment as a time saver it has become a commodity or addiction encouraging the need for more. And where there is no time, there is no time to reflect or communicate with others. It is difficult to appreciate life when your mind is racing miles and years ahead. The experiences we make cannot have any connection with the inner emotional world, this makes any quality, lasting memories difficult and ultimately encourages Demenz. A typical symptom of demenz is anxiety and frustration. Although or great great grandparent had to work har and long they did not need regular holidays like we do today in order to recover from a stress filled and compact timetable.

Patience is a word which calls each one of us to calm down, wait before taking action and accept things which cannot be changed. It is not some abstract ideal but a chance for each of to experience happiness on a long term basis. With patience we make more room to be free and make choices. We can become more sovereign and not loose control over what we do and what happens as a result. It is a necessary pre-requisit to become emotional and spiritualy mature. It shifts our view into the future and makes us aware of what is actually going on at the moment.

Our multi-task and control culture sees patience, in its generosity of time, as being a waste of time. Patience cannot be confused however with the fear, innactivity or lack of disciplne as found in the docile. Patience is very much active. In its steadfastness lies its ability to feel compassion and tame anger. What we really value in life we take more time for and we become more effective in. A message for all bussinesses of the world. Quality time for quality work! Breathe when you breathe, \"look at the small print\" in life, appreciate the changes of the seasons, eat when it is dinner time... .

Re:Patience is of the essence 09 Jul 2009 21:09 #24382

  • Tiamat
  • Tiamat's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Master
  • ID: 1369
It is from patience that we learn understanding that allows us to assess the situation and make decisions based on that evaluations.

When we lose patience we lose that foresight that alerts us to dangers, cautions, warning bells that in a normal situation we would come to hear and take the steps to find the reasonings for this. Also when we lose patience we also lose control of emotions due to the frustrations of not getting something quick enough. From this we learn that a person in a rush never sees the cliff's edge until it is too late.

Take the time to use patience to complete things. Yes it might take slower but in this regards you will know that it is done right and not just half way.

Re:Patience is of the essence 10 Jul 2009 07:51 #24421

Think of life as a journey

You take the journey by jet - what do you see? - only the sky and clouds and not much else

You take the journey by high speed train - what do you see ? the world zips past in a blur - only in the far distance does the view become clearer but it doesnt stay in sight for long to take it in.

You take the journey by steam train - what do you see? - things still move quickly but you have more time to take in the view

You take the journey by foot - what do you see? - Anything n everything you wish to - you can stop when ever the mood takes - you can admire the scenery - sure you dont get as far in the same time - but you can take everything in along the way - you make the journey under your own power and you choose your own route.

Which is the most rewarding journey?

The computer was designed to be a labour saving device yet nowadays most people are the slaves and servants to the computers

Here is a thought - make a diary of an average week, make notes of the time you sepnd doing things such as 'watching tv' 'on the computer for work (necessary use)' 'computer (for leisure) that sort of thing - and finally - time spent with family friends in the real world.

Sure computers allow us to 'talk' with peple around the world as if they were next to us - but is this a good thing when it means we actually neglect those next to us?

Re:Patience is of the essence 10 Jul 2009 18:10 #24474

  • Jon
  • Jon's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Novice
  • ID: 1798
Patience is of the essence because it is a virtue which helps us to grow. One definition of the word is to tolerate delay. This means self control and forbearance as opposed to wanting the world to revolve around us. How many times have we \"jumped the gun\" only to find out that it may have been better to tolerate delay or exercise self control? What did we miss out on? Did we hurt someone because of lack of patience? Did our lives just change completely just because we couldn't control ourselves? Patience is not only a virtue but a necessity for a happy existence.

Re:Patience is of the essence 18 Jul 2009 00:39 #24838

  • Jon
  • Jon's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Novice
  • ID: 1798
Patience is most definitely a Jedi virtue as it is intimately tied to our trust in the Force. Yet, for many of us, patience is a quality more admired than desired. Why do you think businesses came up with the concept of \"Instant Noodles,\" \"3-in-1 Coffee/Shampoo,\" \"Fast Food Restaurants,\" etc? It is because we are living in an \"Instant World,\" and we have to cope with today's fast pace environment. How is this \"instant mania\" affecting our spiritual lives? Do we expect \"instant answers\" from the Force when we pray or meditate on something?
Last Edit: 18 Jul 2009 00:40 by Jon.

Re:Patience is of the essence 19 Jul 2009 21:56 #24898

  • Tiamat
  • Tiamat's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Master
  • ID: 1369
I feel that the generation coming up behind me is more of the instant variety than me. I do enjoy having some instant things, but also have learned that there are times that they must take its course. That is where patience has come in and allowed me to allow things to unfold in its course. There are times I want it now, but then realize that \"instant\" does not mean earned.

Patience comes with all things from school, family, TRAFFIC (in which I lose about 90% dealing with Houston traffic), meditation, work, and life. Without patience, we would not have gained an understanding of what is respected, earned, or learned.

Re:Patience is of the essence 20 Jul 2009 09:15 #24910

I want I want don't get is the old saying yet it seems 'I demand' seems to get and gets it now.

But where is the reward? or indeed honour in instant gratification.

Surely if the life expectancy of humans is increasing - then we have more time to take our time.

Just a thought

MTFBWY - A
Latest Posts Comments Articles
    • FAQ Update (Last post by tzb)
    • When I arrived, Wes and Phortis were shown beneath each forum as the mods, and they were listed as "Security Officers" in the FAQ. I always assumed that the office was called that, but the forum software just defaulted to "Moderator".
    • Dream job? (Last post by crystale)
    • One point is the urgency: I opine that: We all,specially young people (with full energy that need to be canalized) we all need patience. We have more chances of discover things around us if we are in armony and peace. Challenges physically and intellectually are all around us in our society all the time With much attention we can make a study of our place and how we can insert our help to others. Maybe you can't to start in adminstrative works, but you can help to people that need help in one area. An area that you know (Some voluntary or less remunerated work can to add experience) Be nice...and available... When you are in a place in universe ... this place can to conduce to other doors... We can plan some things. But we ignore the future in details... One very important teaching is the teaching of the life More that papers,(papers also have their importance) but more than papers, we have the posibility to be nice persons One great carpenter can to build a nice and expensive chair, but maybe also can to build excelent and nice dog house Challenges physically and intellectually are all around us in our society... and many oportunities, maybe hidden...we can wait the singular chance in middle of the apparently ordinary.. And time is time,(maybe dont need to think that time is a thing that you can to lose...always (whatever you do)take time,so... ¿you maybe prefer in middle your preparation,and study (take some time for fun) :woohoo: Important is to be happy in present and not just wait future (balance) words of Ryujin : ", do what you love " Is wisdom or in other way: do not make things without love B)
    • Coincidence and Synchronicity (Last post by Aqua)
    • Quote: Our minds are desperate for patterns... In my pattern I think you clarified the thread in more than one way :cheer:
    • Article: What if Marriage were Temporary? (Last post by ren)
    • Quote: I think that there is a real reason why marriage in almost all the traditional societies was enforced social obligation; it wasn't until around the middle ages in Europe that the idea of making a personal choice about who your spouse would be came onto the scene. In europe it's around the end of the middle ages that regular people started getting married. Before that, most people (peasants) would be what in the Uk we call "common law married", which is essentially people considering themselves a family without ever formalizing anything in front of anyone. Only monarchs and other people of power would ever get married, and that was always for political or economical reasons, sometimes (often) resulting in some degree of inbreeding, something that remains common in parts of the world today.
    • The Shadow (Last post by RyuJin)
    • I had to figure all that out the long difficult way, a long time ago, and it's what I've been telling others ever since... We do have a lesson in the degree forums that uses shamanic practices to find you shadow self and your inner child...
    • Books for Free (Public Domain) (Last post by Akkarin)
    • Quote: I've posted some of these on my wall previously, but I think they deserve a thread, and as an avid book collector this is quite close to my heart. There are a lot of books out there that are now in the public domain but you might find sites like Amazon still charging for printed or kindle copies of them. Below are some websites where you can find these public domain books: Books Should Be Free Project Gutenberg Global Grey (This one is a bit easier to look through than the first two and has some interesting stuff, especially for religion, philosophy, history and occult subjects) Feedbooks Authorama (Perhaps a nice mod could sticky this?.... maybe, maybe :) ) Each of those links was added to the library: http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/library Thank you.
    • This Week In Science (Last post by Khaos)
    • Renewables Now Produce 22 Percent Of The Worlds Energy. Last year, renewable power capacity expanded at its fastest pace yet, reaching nearly 22 percent of the global mix. Up from 21 percent in 2012 and 18 percent in 2007, that puts renewable electricity generation—from wind, solar, and hydro—on par with that of natural gas. But with uncertainty over policy support, the expansion of renewable energy will slow over the next five years, according to a new report from the International Energy Agency. Renewable energy could make up over a quarter of global electricity generation by 2020, according to the agency, but annual growth is expected to slow and stabilize after 2014—putting renewables at risk of falling short of global climate change goals. “Renewables are a necessary part of energy security. However, just when they are becoming a cost-competitive option in an increasing number of cases, policy and regulatory uncertainty is rising in some key markets. This stems from concerns about the costs of deploying renewables,” IEA’s Maria van der Hoeven says in a news release. “Governments must distinguish more clearly between the past, present and future, as costs are falling over time.” The report also provided a renewable power investment outlook. Through 2020, investment in new renewable power could average over $230 billion a year—though that’s lower than the $250 billion invested around the world in 2013. The decline is because unit costs are expected to fall, but also due to expectations that global capacity growth will slow. However, with the focus on electricity and transportation sectors, the contribution of renewables to heating and cooling remains underdeveloped. Although renewable energy sources are expected to grow by almost 25 percent in 2020, their share in energy use for heat rises to only 9 percent—up from 8 percent in 2013. [Via International Energy Agency] Read more at www.iflscience.com/environment/renewable...#C1dqdqFVQ7YpJtrO.99
    • The Code(s) (Last post by Gisteron)
    • What always troubled me about the revised "yet"-code, was, that, and you guys know me by now - I love me some precision - it always sounded like somebody is having trouble making up their mind. Yes, I hear them saying, it is about balance, middle path, zen, yadda-yadda-yadda... So what does that accomplish? We already know there are two sides to most issues, thanks for the info. Of course, short of the Force line, everything else in the orthodox code would resemble classical stoic teachings though, and the "yet"-framing is at best just failing to represent that and arguably speaks of the opposite instead. That's why the new pattern of displaying the codes as parallel and giving different views on "the same teaching" sounds discretely iffy to me, though I suppose that'd be a discussion all on its own, and with some brain spine breaking mental gymnastics there sure will be some apologetic to talk the elephant back out of the room when it didn't have to be brought in the first place... To be frank, and this is my opinion only, I think the "orthodox" code is by far the more useful one. Where the "yet" version only tells you that there just are some opposites here and there, it barely makes a judgement or prescription. It tells you nothing about what to strive for nor gives you insight into anything you hadn't already internalized by the time you read it. On the other hand, the "orthodox" code is way more judgemental and strict. That may not always be a good thing (the Temple has had its share of newcomers who needed that explained and smoothed out for them), and I also understand everyone who ever gets confused by the parallelistic format when the lines are so different (and please, someone, push me to finally write my complete essay/treatise of the orthodox code), but at least it makes a statement, which is, again, more than can be said of the "yet" version. Sorry if I was being harsh again :unsure:

There are 279 visitors, 5 guests and 18 members online (one is in chat): Br. John, Zanthan Storm, steamboat28, Shadouness, ren, Adder, Psyddhattha, Reacher, Clone_Warrior, Buvan, Llama Su, Kamizu, tzb, Senan, jadedbehan, KalSterner, Knigma, SeventhSL, Chadius4, Targeran Arynal, Acheron, Sahyu.

Follow Us