Anthropocene - Coruscant here we come

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Anthropocene - Coruscant here we come 02 Apr 2012 20:56 #55070

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If anyone has seen the most recent Star Wars movies they would have seen the capital planet of Coruscant with its surface entirely covered with built environment designed for modern living and work. This has been called an ecumenopolis, world city, and would represent effectively the death of the planets original biosphere from the creation of a new human made layer onto the planets surface. The measure of this change in the surface of the planet could be considered to have really begun with what is being called an Anthropocene era, and this video is saying we have just entered the beginning of that era and its a good excuse to post another video showing an interesting visualization of where we live;

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Re: Anthropocene - Coruscant here we come 03 Apr 2012 00:16 #55096

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We haven't made a hole in the ozone layer. It's natural.

Re: Anthropocene - Coruscant here we come 03 Apr 2012 01:00 #55104

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ren wrote:
We haven't made a hole in the ozone layer. It's natural.

I dunno, I think the argument is that having certain man made chemicals in the atmosphere amplifies the ozone depletion of polar stratospheric clouds to levels far in advance of what would occur normally in nature - leading to possible broader implications to climate systems.

I'm only going on Wikipedia though, and here is some relevant points;
On 2 October 2011, a study was published in the journal Nature, which said that between December 2010 and March 2011 up to 80% of the ozone in the atmosphere at about 20 kilometres (12 mi) above the surface was destroyed. The level of ozone depletion was severe enough that scientists said it could be compared to the ozone hole that forms over Antarctica every winter. According to the study, "for the first time, sufficient loss occurred to reasonably be described as an Arctic ozone hole." The study analyzed data from the Aura and CALIPSO satellites, and determined that the larger-than-normal ozone loss was due to an unusually long period of cold weather in the Arctic, some 30 days more than typical, which allowed for more ozone-destroying chlorine compounds to be created

In the lower atmosphere, there is much more chlorine from CFCs and related haloalkanes than there is in HCl from salt spray, and in the stratosphere halocarbons are dominant. Only methyl chloride which is one of these halocarbons has a mainly natural source, and it is responsible for about 20 percent of the chlorine in the stratosphere; the remaining 80% comes from man made sources.
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Re: Anthropocene - Coruscant here we come 03 Apr 2012 04:50 #55116

I found the point you made Adder, to be very fascinating. But I wanted to make a clarification. The Anthropocene epoc being tossed around is being considered more for strata analysis. That being, the effects of civilization are finally beginning to be registered actively in the stratiographic layers in soil, resulting in geological formations that can ONLY be explained through complex industrial based life.

The natural result, of course, is that our effects on the environment are now able to be recorded and noticed by future generations in an interesting detail without having to only go off of artifacts and data articles from this time.

Do I think we will reach the level of Coruscant though?
Hard to say really, The amount of time in the future that SW can possibly exist would have to be between 20,000 and 35000 years in the future.

These numbers go more off bits of info dropped "Jedi was originated 20,000 years ago and was re-inforced by offworlders" and so on.

Re: Anthropocene - Coruscant here we come 03 Apr 2012 09:00 #55118

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Adder, I'm not denying the well known effects of CFCs and the like... But the "ozone hole" naturally appears at the poles for spring. Caused by halogens like iodine and chlorine (and bromine)... Salt, basically.

Re: Anthropocene - Coruscant here we come 03 Apr 2012 11:20 #55126

Now I am depressed :(
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Re: Anthropocene - Coruscant here we come 03 Apr 2012 19:57 #55205

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That was quite a cool video, not sure what the point to it was... lol

But no we aren't quite like Coruscant yet...

Not until we have skyscrapers across the entire planet, but actually living in a city improves your standard of living so we might be better off...

Obviously this isn't going to happen, but if everyone moved into a few large cities we would be much better off (living standards wise) than having ourselves spread across the countryside
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Re: Anthropocene - Coruscant here we come 03 Apr 2012 21:35 #55239

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I don't think living in a city improves your standard of living. It has advantages but overall I'd rather stay in the middle of nowhere. And if I don't have access to doctors or 1TB of fiber then so be it.
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