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    • Forum Access Changes (Last post by Akkarin)
    • Quote: I am one of those "Guests" that are hesitant, fearful, and timid about voicing my concerns and complaints. This is not because of your rank bar. But because of how I have been treated in the past, how others have been treated and thus 'vented' to me as an outside observer, and how I have viewed actions from "Ghost" status. Well I don't remember us having a conversation about this in the past so I'm telling you that if this is something that matters to you (and it seems as though it does) you do not have to be hesitant or fearful about voicing your concerns with me. Please PM me if this is something you want to talk about, and if it isn't then please PM me about anything in future that you want to talk about. Failing that get someone to do it on your behalf so you can gauge my reaction first lol, if I manage to convince you that really I won't bite then you can contact me directly :) (this of course can be equally applied to every Councillor, but I wanted to personally reassure you, and the others who also might feel dis-empowered and worried). There have been some clergy suggestions thrown around recently about trying to address some of these concerns, they have been put on the back-burner because we've just overhauled our Seminary training, but I'll bring them back up again today nd make them a pirority so we can address these concerns of our members (and non-members).
    • TotJO on Tumblr (Last post by Akkarin)
    • Well whatever it is I can reassure you Ryujin that it is not Grindr :P :laugh: www.google.co.uk/search?q=grinder&rlz=1C...22&ie=UTF-8#q=grindr
    • [Suggestion] Introductory Lesson for New Members. (Last post by Akkarin)
    • Quote: I definitely feel like we could offer a lesson, not so much in what to do, but in how discursive learning works and what that means for people considering becoming members and/or undertaking the IP. I like the Darmok analogy, though I don't know if watching the episode is as fruitful as just explaining what discursive learning is and how it is utilized at the Temple. In fact, if we did use Darmok it would be quite humorous since that in itself would be asking a person to draw from the episode what we're trying to say about how we operate here. It would make a fun Degree/Apprentice lesson :D
    • Exploring and Understanding Acceptance (Last post by Revan Falton)
    • I think its mostly about respect of the other person, their views and decisions. We may not agree with everything another does, nor should we be forced to. However what it is, is to have respect towards theother for deciding their path. Surely you would not want to be persicuted for your views and decisions to how beat lead your life. DISCLAIMER I do not mean decisions and choices that people make that physical harms a person, property, or well being. Or any other law. (Hopes this does not cause someone to derail this thread into a debate on what laws should be implemented concerning what, and if a person should have the right to do so. IE: Debate on gayarriage, or polygamy for example.
    • Krishnamurti: “It is no measure of health to be we... (Last post by Kohadre)
    • www.wildmind.org/blogs/quote-of-the-mont...ti-measure-of-health I once had a disturbed young man come to a meditation class I was teaching in Edinburgh. As we’d gathered and during the meditation instruction I’d noticed that he was unusually intense and that he had noticeably poor personal hygiene, but in most ways he seemed like a fairly typical young man. In the discussion following, however, his conversation started to veer off into more bizarre areas. He’d had “cosmic” experiences during the meditation session — experiences whose details I no longer recall but which sounded very off-balance. His girlfriend was apparently an Iranian princess. He was being shadowed by various security forces. Later still, as we were winding up and preparing to leave, and he was able to talk to me more or less alone, his conversation became more delusional still. He had developed special powers through his spiritual practice and could make things happen in the world around him. As we talked a housefly smacked noisily into the glass door we were standing beside. “See!” he said, excitedly. “I made that happen.” He was obviously ill and suffering, and I experienced that pang of knowing that there was little or nothing I could do to help. I’m no mental health professional, but his behaviors reminded me of what little I knew about schizophrenia and so I suggested as kindly as I could that he might be misinterpreting his experiences and that he might want to talk to a doctor about what was going on. He was clearly having problems with his mental health, but here’s the thing: according to the Buddha, so were the rest of us. “All worldlings are mad,” he said. “Worldling” is a translation of “putthujana,” which is simply anyone who isn’t enlightened. That’s me, and you. The Buddha had his own ideas about what constitutes mental health, and by his definition anyone who isn’t well on the way to Enlightenment is insane. Quite how literally he meant it when he said “All worldlings are mad” is hard to say, but when he looked at ordinary people like us going about their daily business he saw a world out of balance — and a world that by necessity is out of balance, because it is composed of those same off-kilter individuals. He had a term for this imbalance, which was viparyasa in Sanskrit, although the less-well-known Pali equivalent vipallasa is a bit easier on the tongue and the eye. Vipallasa means “inversion,” “perversion,” or “derangement.” Specifically, in using this term the Buddha was talking about the ways in which we misunderstand the world we live in, and the ways in which we misunderstand ourselves. Just at the young man at my meditation class was constantly misinterpreting what was happening (“See! I made that happen”) so too do the rest of us live in a virtual reality of delusion, confusion, and distortion. What’s more, we largely share the same delusions, which means that we don’t even realize that our minds are disturbed. And thus, as Krishnamurti suggests, it’s possible to think that we’re spiritually and mentally healthy because we share our mistaken values and understandings with those around us. Collectively, our ill minds create a society that is itself ill, and we consider ourselves healthy because we see our values reflected in our fellow worldlings. When I think of the vipallasas in modern life I’m overwhelmed by examples, but the one that springs most to mind is to materialism. We keep thinking that the answer to our sense of existential dissatisfaction is to buy more stuff: more stuff, and better stuff. I guess I notice this most with gadgets, but for other people it’s houses, furniture, shoes, clothes, or cars — none of which I care about at all. I get a new gadget — the shiny MacBook Pro I’m writing this article on, for example — and I feel a sense of pleasure just looking at it. It’s better, faster, prettier than any computer I’ve had before. But then what happens over time? Newer, better, faster, prettier computers come on the market, and I start comparing my machine unfavorably with them. My gadget starts to look a bit old-fashioned (after only six months!), less cool, less capable. It feels less fast. And I’m no longer so happy with it. I now start to hanker after something new. And I’ve been through all this craziness before. (Don’t they say that insanity is doing the same time over and over and expecting a different result?) Even knowing that I’m on a materialistic treadmill doesn’t entirely blunt the craving for a new computer, although to give myself credit I live without a television and rarely make impulse purchases. But on some level I really believe that the answer to the discomfort of my cravings will arrive in a box carried by a UPS truck. I work with these cravings in my meditation and in my daily life, because the Buddha suggested that there was a better answer to the problem of craving. His advice was that we need to look deeply at our craving itself, and to realize the many levels of delusion that come packaged with it. The new gadget (or pair of shoes, or that lovely sweater, or sexy car) doesn’t contain a magical ingredient that will make us happy. The object of our craving is impermanent and therefore incapable of giving lasting satisfaction. Our craving itself is impermanent! We can watch cravings arise and pass. As we watch them come and go, choosing not to act on them, they begin to develop an unreal appearance. As we start increasingly to see through them we no longer take them so seriously, and they become weaker and less frequent. And in the end we come to see what the Buddha himself saw, which is that the answer to the problem of our cravings is not acquiring the object of our cravings but letting go of craving itself. It’s through abandoning craving that we will finally find peace, that we’ll come back to our senses, stop seeing things in a distorted way, and find true health and wellbeing. And having done that, to whatever degree, we can look around at the imbalance that surrounds us — really seeing it — and then compassionately reach out to others so that we can help them bring about their own healing.
    • Workout Check-In Thread (Last post by Adder)
    • Summer here, so I use my old Total Gym 1000 which is inside (cooler). Being inherently lazy, I base it around laying down or sitting and that makes it relaxing but also possible to remember the order of the routine which I designed myself!!! 1. Laying, Upside Down [image] [image] [image] 2. Sit up [image] 3. Lay down again [image] [image] 4. Sit up and swing around [image] [image] 5. Finally lay down again [image] [image] 6. Workout over, try to get up over and over until exhuasted, then sleep on Total gym until recovered. [image] Its easy to remember when structured in that way about which way I might be sitting - my body naturally remembers changes in position for some reason, like turning in sleep. Only have to remember 1 or 2 things per position instead of the entire thing in order.
    • How to Drop Out by Ran Prieur ~ Awesome Must Read ... (Last post by Adder)
    • That is pretty intense. Can women do that as easily and live without any real security? I met a guy once who walked everywhere and only had $20, which he promptly gave to me and my buddy (his cousin) for no reason :huh: He was of sound mind, said hello, had a chat and then left to go (walk/hitch) back where he came from (a few hundred miles away). He just wanted to let his family know he was ok, and we were the ones he happened to run into to receive the message. I view contemporary asceticism in a modern context not too dissimilar to that, but not quite to that extent of disengagement - in that efficiency of resource use is key and wealth being detached entirely from ones ego.... but I wonder about security. Perhaps that makes me an idiot! Most of my effort in acquiring wealth is directed at achieving some nature of wealth sufficient to support myself when I'm unable to work, and we determine resource use as measured for its safety and reliability to some important function in meeting those minimum requirements. It's also the best way to save money too!!!
    • NUS Won't Condemn ISIS Because of "Islamophob... (Last post by Akkarin)
    • I've put this is the humour section, because I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry :P :unsure: tab.co.uk/2014/10/14/nus-refuses-to-cond...se-its-islamophobic/ Sadly the NUS (National Union of Students) is a complete and utter shambles I am ashamed to have "representing" me.
    • "Us vs Them": A Simple Recipe to Prevent... (Last post by Brenna)
    • Them vs us. Absolutely. And Im with Ren on this one. Pops up in our community far more than it should. but also, Blind trust and not educating yourself. If my doctor suggests something, I look into it myself first no matter what.
    • NASA's Journey to Mars (Last post by Revan Falton)
    • Quote: Although I wouldn't get on that ship ... For as admirable as the name might be ( ;) ) the Orion propulsion system is a pretty dangerous bit of risk. There are better ways. From my understanding this is a test flight. I believe it is testing how new equipment and such. I could be wrong though.
    • IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: Initiate Programme Update (Last post by Akkarin)
    • Quote: Quote: Question: When was this 60 days introduced? Answer: The 60 day waiting period has been the case for a very long time, it simply hasn't been advertised very well. We are now taking better care to advertise it, the Initiate Programme is the same today as it ever was yesterday. I don't think I have ever seen that page.. :huh: As the person who typically manages all of the articles I can sometimes forget that people aren't as aware of them as I lol. There is a link to it in the FAQ under Ranks (10), but I think that's the only way of actually navigating there unless you have access to the "Article Manager".
    • FAQ Update (Last post by Akkarin)
    • Updated the Guest FAQ to reflect the new access changes: http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/faq#Guests Quote: A ‘Guest’ is a registered website user, but one who has not filled out the Jedi Application or taken the Simple Oath. Because of this they are not an official member of our church 'Temple of the Jedi Order' and have no official rank or hold any official position. A Guest is different to a Visitor in that a Guest is a registered user, whereas a Visitor is an unregistered user - one who is viewing the forum without logging in. There is a special forum for Guest members of the Temple to contribute in called General Discussions (Guest) and is located in the New Members Forum. While one is a Guest one will be able to read all posts in the General Discussions and Jediism sub-forums, but will be unable to post replies.

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