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    • Beyond Carnism and towards Rational, Authentic Foo... (Last post by ren)
    • I don't find other animals disgusting, and will quite happily eat them. Similarly, golden retrievers will befriend animals from other species (such as humans), and still eat a lot of meat. Besides, if we want to be logical about it, or values of compassion, justice and authenticity would treat plants equally to animals. Her sentiocentrist views are just like ordinary racism.
    • unconditional love (Last post by RyuJin)
    • of course each person identifies/defines each emotion differently... my hate/anger/happiness/love may be completely different from someone else's... for some happiness is simply the absence of anger, love the absence of hate...for others love may be so magnificent that it is unobtainable in a mortal lifetime... for me love and happiness as i experience them are simply the absence of hate and anger...however as i define them they are much greater than that...the goal being to one day experience them as they are defined...
    • baru, RyuJin, Apprenticeship, 2015 (Last post by baru)
    • Thank you all for your support in this process. I look forward to the growth and evolution that begins with this first single step. Blessings and love.
    • Let's Talk About Runes (Last post by Kamizu)
    • I was thinking of making a set from slices of antler of some kind, carving them in and maybe painting. Although I do like the pretty stones ones I think I like the idea of the antlers better. I have a friend of mine who makes dog chews from naturally shed antlers. She can slice some up for me :D I just have to decide what kind of antler I want to use hmm... I was worried about getting into them and getting distracted for a time lol. My Tarot deck doesn't like it much. They always give me attitude when I start using them after a long absence. :blush:
    • Is questioning one's faith inevitable? (Last post by Gisteron)
    • My objection was not so much with the content as it was with t he phrasing. Being a scepic I do not myself think that there is anything to guarantee one's being correct on a synthetic proposition, so I reckon we are on the same page here, Jestor. However, to boldly (both figuratively and in text format ;)) declare that "nothing" could ever do so I cannot. That is not something I can show to be true so I cannot assert that it is, even if I suspect so. If you wonder, the reason I asked for 'proof' in this case rather than evidence as I usually would is because no amount of things we can exclude as preventives against being wrong, we will never be able to conclude that we have covered an exhaustive list; therefore, the truth of the proposition can only be demonstrated by a logical analysis that concludes that it is not even in principle possible to prevent oneself from being wrong. Point in case, it was the power of the proclamation and the absoluteness of the statement, really... The wording, rather than the message was what I responded to, knowing you and understanding that what you meant wasn't quite exactly how you put it. On that note, lest I be rightfully called out on hypocricy, I must stress that absoluteness itself is not necessarily a problem. When for instance I say that "no amount of faith can prevent one from being wrong", I actually do mean "no amount" and assuming there is a way to map faith to something more quantifiable and maybe also monotony of the resulting function I can actually prove that. It was similar in the second response also. Since in the statement I quoted "any" can mean both any one thing and all things, it is, for someone who doesn't know you, not clear whether you mean that there are people who do grow in some areas despite their faith in it or in others or that there are people who grow in all areas despite their faith with some. My suspicion is, and as of yet I have no demonstration of it ready, that faith in the definition we ended up agreeing upon is a hindering factor to growth in everybody who has it; that is not to say people with faith don't grow, rather that there is for each a non-empty set of areas in which the faithful doesn't grow, grows slowly or only grows little in comparison with someone who has no faith pertaining to the considered areas. It's quantifiers I tried to add. Semantics. We are otherwise on very close pages on this one, it seems.
    • Why Do People Believe Stupid Stuff, Even When They... (Last post by Akkarin)
    • Quote: We are force-fed distractions at every turn to keep us from looking behind the curtain. Most people can tell you who Kim Kardashian is, but how many people know who the Secretary of State is, or what is his job role. We hear on the news every day that the economy is getting better, and most believe it, because they want to; but how many people understand quantitative easing, or how it works? But which way around does it go? Are people fed this stuff to ensure that they are distracted? Or are people just distracted and so they want to watch this stuff? I do not think one can say that it is absolutely one way around to the other.
    • Avatar Discussion (Episode 1, TLA) (Last post by Jamie Stick)
    • Episode 5: The King of Omashu This may be one of the more difficult episodes to talk about because it is almost exclusively focusing on Aang. I think this may the first time Aang takes into consideration the fact that being the Avatar draws unwanted attention. After what happened in Kyoshi, it shouldn't surprise anyone that he would be more mindful, but Aang is still very much a child. The primary reason for Aang wanting to stop in Omashu is because it would be fun. I know it comes across as though I'm disparaging children, but I'm actually try to make a note of Aang's growth. He is still a child by the end of the series, but he's a very child from the one we're seeing right now. Let's talk about appearances and not just those of Bumi seemingly as an old man or of the deadly challenges. How about the fact that the Avatar is a boy even though he's something like 12 (biologically 112)? This has come up in the past couple of episodes and is in part why nobody believes he's actually the Avatar. There is very little about this episode that is exactly as it appears. Why? What can be taken away from this? Why is it important? I would humbly suggest that it is a reflection and simplification of life. That very few things in life are straightforward and that it requires discernment to understanding what is happening. What are your thoughts?
    • From time to time a poem (Last post by OB1Shinobi)
    • these old shoes are worn and ragged, smudged with stained unsightly tears night and day my feet have dragged these old shoes everywhere to wander in the wilderness to laugh and love the living night what terrors might an echo bring? or windy sighs of soft delight? to walk the ways of desperate days in a desperate daze of hurt and woe where streets are made of razors blades and glitter grin at broken soles to run faster than the wind that screams and mocks my failures as i fly to run so fast i catch the dreams that long ago had past me by these old shoes are worn and ragged by the march theyve made to here from there night and day my feet still drag these old shoes everywhere
    • Questions (Last post by Dee)
    • Thank you for your participation, guys! It is much appreciated. And if you think of anything else, feel free to add to it.
    • Reddit on Motivations/Goals (Last post by Adder)
    • What is a House of Cards!!!! I'm still only up to Season 2 of that Winterfell dragon sword show whatever its called :pinch: :lol: But yea the message, made me think about when they tell you that 'you can do anything' its not exactly true, everything is not possible. But it doesn't mean you cannot chase an unreachable goal if you enjoy the chase. If striving for something in particular, you gotta re-assess progress and direction as much as possible though else you can get confused about effort versus outcome, as resilience should not be the same thing as being stubborn IMO. The pic also made me think that some things need the next step to be the focus to find the target, and some things need the target to be the focus to work backwards and find the next step. Dream big, but dream plenty perhaps!?
    • The Grateful Thread (Last post by RyuJin)
    • Quote: suctioned the sandwich from his lungs. did anyone tell him he's supposed to chew his food not inhale it?
    • Should 'justice' treat children like adults? (Last post by Adder)
    • It should be why they have judges, to make individual intepretations and compensations to achieve the best possible outcome from a bad situation. Generally speaking, smaller crimes could have more potential for leniency with kids IMO, but the worse the crime is the less room there should probably be - because the impacts of the crime increase with the crime which might point to more and more requirement to recognize the victim's more and more in setting the punishment. I think this can still happen for adults, but to a lesser extent as adults should now be role models for children and fully cognizant of the law and the need for following it.... well the ones that make sense at least :whistle:
    • 5 rights women have that men don't (Last post by OB1Shinobi)
    • Quote: Because most Men or the stereotypical "religious" male fears the feminine aspects, things to do with the reflection of the Sun - The Moon, or is told to fear these aspects, Men do all they can to reject the women inside of themselves. Men deny their "wholeness" by denying their female, feminine, emotional and heart centered self. Men are taught (generally) that emotions are bad and since women are "emotional", then women are bad or need to be controlled. And I find that women are instructed to "hate" men for various of other reasons. In the end, we Love/Hate each other in our attempts to have union with each other. We are born into a body that has a form and that form has predisposed aspects - Male or Female (Yes I know that more various exist, but I am writing about the generic concept). However, our spirit nature is whole and encompasses both the masculine logic and the feminine emotions - and more. In the end, we need to reconcile our "hatred" of the sexes in order to heal ourselves and the world that we live in. Until this "battle of the sexes" stops, will we only know "hate" and threads like this will exist. Are threads like this helpful? Do these types of conversations bring us to greater understanding of each other? Does it heal the ancestral wounds caused by such distinctions? Does it allow us to clear our field so we can be better Jedi? za Ultimately, what is the purpose of this thread? i am genuinely interested in growing i engage in these conversations because i have things that ive learned in my life which i know can benefit someone else and because i know that there are other people adound me who have the puzzle pieces that i am missing when i talk i do my best to be completely honest about everything i say and i give the benefit of the doubt that the majority of others are as well and that at some level we have these conversations because we want to be the best that we are capable of being even those who dont change and who refuse others are usually imo doing so because they/we believe that its for their/our best interesnt for being the best of ourselves so will this thread particular make any difference for any of us? it depends on how open we can be and how safe we can feel in being open and in how directly into our own motives we are capable of looking

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